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Hello all.
I need some help here and ONLY FABO members will be able to help.
I need a pic of a 69 barracuda 4 speed car with console.... to see how it looks when installed properly.
I just don't think mine is set up properly.
I want to see exactly where the console sits and how the shifter sits.
Mine looks like the shifter is too low and sticking out at a straight line, I looked at other (B bodies) can't find any A bodies pictured anywhere to see how the shifter sits in the console.
Any help will be truly appreciated.
Got the shifter from Brewers and have an original one also and they both (installed both lol) look exactly the same thought maybe one sat differently but they look the same when installed.
Thanks.
MAPS

P.S. I forgot to add, it shifts 100s better also... They told me it would hit make a difference which shifter I had, console or non console shifter, but I can tell you this one goes in to gear easier, especially reverse.

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Yours looks right to me. I transplanted a 68 hurst console shifter and console into my Dart Sport, it was exactly as yours is. Unfortunately I dont have a pic on this phone to show you. Mine also shifted great, and was very easy to powershift.

About the only thing that will change the orientation of the shifter is the aluminum plate that bolts it to the transmission, there are several different versions with different angles built into them.
 
Yours is 100% correct, the B-Body shifter is angled up and different from the A-Body. I have 3 console shifted A-Body's, 67 Barracuda, 69 GTS convertible, and 69 GTS I have owned for 40 years...
 
I added a console to my 66 Barracuda, the console base is the same ( a four speed base is different than an auto), the top plates have a style line down the middle. It must have the same physical location as any "A" body console, so I've attached info that the forum has provided to me. The brackets that are closest to the shifter are only for the automatic shifter and have no function on a 4 speed car.

Of course, in 66 there was an Inland shifter and the console runs with an "offset shifter". I hope this is what you're looking for...and it helps.

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I just wrote a super long msg but to all your luck, I deleted it... By mistake. LOL
I want to say again, THANK YOU ! To one and to All.
What I really need now (so I can put an ending to this dilemma of mine) from one of you good folks, is a picture of a 4 speed console installed already with the shifter that went into the A Body Barracuda.
Long story short, seen one and was truly concerned I had a problem.

MAPS

P.S. I'm off to work as I was just paged..... hence, not having the justice allowing me to go into detail.
I'll explain a little later.
FYI, most of you who now know of me. Know that my work is not open for debate about punctuality. They call. I jump.
On account that my customers wait on no one, nor complain to me directly as I'm well aware they have paid their dues. By the time we cross paths (at work)
Although special favors are granted to them. Nor am I. We co-exist for that small moment of time while at work and NEVER, EVER, see each other again. If we do ? Then then my days are over.
I see dead people is not only a movie but a great place to think about personal issues as I now overly and truly once again appreciate the value of those I love and have near and dear to my heart.
A,B,C ..... Or any other awesome car you may like, is were you start (and finish) to realize it's not the greatest joy of one's life nor capable of having you dwell on it (or any other matter) long enough for you feel compelled for anything else but life itself.
 
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Thanks for the pic again, but I'm talking about a shifter that came in consoled cars.
The car is a 1969 Barracuda (A Body) it's a 4 speed with a console and they looked like this, similar to what I have, I just feel that my shifter looks like it's sitting too low .mis that possible ?

Thanks
MAPS

PS. Orange interior car is mine, I feel like my shifter sits too low and too straight, compared to the other pic cars. Where as the shifter looks higher, taller and bent further upwards.... Not like mine seeming to look like it's coming beck at me in a straight line.
 
You said you have 2 shifters? A repop and an original. Try the repop. Original b body shifters are slightly different but look the same. Maybe that's the problem?
 
In a 66 Barracuda ( pictured sent previously) the shifter is an Inland and all the bends are under the console. Sorry, I thought you were trying to place the console within the cabin.
 
I believe MAPS is looking for ref pics of factory 69 shifter and console. Your console would be tha same as maps, just the shifter is different(drastically).
FWIW, I dont think pics will identify the issues. Measurements need to be taken IMO.
Michael Brisebois said:
In a 66 Barracuda ( pictured sent previously) the shifter is an Inland and all the bends are under the console. Sorry, I thought you were trying to place the console within the cabin.
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due to the location of the shifter body under the console, I think that the shifter handle bends need to be under the boot, to have the shifter function proper. If it's not working well...perhaps it is not a "console shifter"
 
Have you looked at your engine and transmission mounts to see if the are worn out and collapsed? You likely have the old biscuit style unless someone has changed them to spool. I have seen spool ones completely debonded and failed allowing the engine to suit an inch or more lower than factory, which would place the shifter lower. Have you confirmed that the aluminum plate that mounts the shifter to the transmission is the correct one? Do you have a short A body transmission, or a longer B/C body one with someones home made shifter mount plate?
 
d55dave said:
Have you looked at your engine and transmission mounts to see if the are worn out and collapsed? You likely have the old biscuit style unless someone has changed them to spool. I have seen spool ones completely debonded and failed allowing the engine to suit an inch or more lower than factory, which would place the shifter lower. Have you confirmed that the aluminum plate that mounts the shifter to the transmission is the correct one? Do you have a short A body transmission, or a longer B/C body one with someones home made shifter mount plate?
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Yesxi have the biscuit type but they are new (less than 3,000 miles on them)
I was actually told that my engine may be sitting a tad too far back (towards the firewall) but that would only make it closer to me as the engine is closer to me.
The shifter is an original one (Like I said...i have an original one, and one from Brewer's that's a reprop one) and they both sit the same.
The tranny is a 340 A Body 4 speed also and the plate is a stock one.
Can it be that the shifter I have is a bolt on shifter and I have "whatever else is the opposite of a bolt on shifter" ?
I recall they telling me the shifter I got from Brewers is for a bolt on mechanism because I saw the Hurst shifter I removed when I didn't have a console and was your typical looking 4 speed shifter ( which by the way is available if anyone needs one for a reasonable price) had only one hole at the bottom of the shifter while my shifter had two holes ?

4SRT (Steve) I was going to wipe to you also to ask you what you thought about it add you have the same set up if I recall correctly but I knew you would eventually find your way gets... LOL

Alright guys, I'm still looking to see a shifter like mine in a console that someone has and can give me his opinion.


Thanks
MAPS

P.S. This is truly screwing with my thoughts everyday, I have so much to do but I can't go forward until I settle this matter.....and it's going to be a loooooooong winter if nothing is deduced.
 
I forgot to add, the shifter, shifters real nice now, in fact I don't think it's ever shifted any better, especially going into reverse.
So I'm truly at a loss.
Thanks guys.
MAPS
 
Michael Brisebois said:
66 Barracuda, re-upholstered factory correct, but contact me off this thread to continue
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Michael
YES, your interior looks awesome....

I'm still waiting on someone to answer me about what I said...... the shifter, shifts real nice now and getting into reverse is much smoother than before .... Just I feel like the shift handle is lower than other ones I seen in pictures.Maybe mine was in 3rd, 1st, 4th etc... While others were in an other speed and thus look higher than mine at that time, because of that ?

Steve,
Do you happen to have your set up done already so I can see a picture of it ? I'm off to the garage now (7 a.m.) to see if I have any news from the mechanic and what the reason may be for it being situated in said position, add if it's normal.

As I have said, Asked before, if Any, I repeat ..ANY, THOUGHTS, IDEAS, REASONS, POSSIBILITIES,
Someone may have for the shifter sitting add it is, please let me know.
In fact if you think it unlocks proper, please let know as well.
Thank you All !
FABO members are the best, loyal, experienced set of car owners that there should be an annual award given for such auto characteristic owners.
FABO would be winning it year inn and year out, at a rate of 1 loss every 5 yrs, if not more.

Thanks,
MAPS
 
FWIW, myself and hemissdart have already stated in this thread that yours looks 100% correct. I will try to dig up pics of mine to show you.
 
If you search on the internet "68 dart console shifter" or "69 dart console shifter" or the same with cuda or barracuda you will find lots of pics.
 
One more note, with the hurst console shifter, when in second or fourth, the upper part of.the shifter handle from the ball to the first bend is nearly horizontal.
 
I agree with what is posted, it looks correct? You said it feels great, it shifts thru all gears? If so, i would leave it alone.
 
One more note, with the hurst console shifter, when in second or fourth, the upper part of.the shifter handle from the ball to the first bend is nearly horizontal...

Bingo that's what I needed to hear, because I was back at the shop today looking at the shifter and realized that exact same thing (2nd & 4th) that's when the shifter polka almost horizontal.
In first or Third it was ok,
Guys you have no idea how happy this has made me

Nice pics also d55dave....
 
I have 71 scamp that has the same looking set up as the one hemi ss dart showed in his pics.it was a bench seat car and I put in buckets,planing on building custom console for it but really don't understand how your shift handle comes out in center of console.is it all in the bends of the shifter handle or is there a diff mounting on trans?

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