Ditto BP just had total knee replacement surgery this year just starting to skate again. A bunch of us go to Mt Shasta in Ca next month for an outdoor all night tournament it is a hoot. Pull kegs and grills right up to boards then eat and drink like pirates all night with hockey games thrown in! By morning light you will have played half a dozen games thrown up at least twice and been drunk and sober three times. It is the most fun ever!