Fred, sometimes they come out pretty easy, at least the last 3 or 4 I did. A lot of it has to do with where the car spent its life. Salt and rust, is always a problem....
This is my first attempt Mitch I did as FOG suggested and got them to move on the lower control arms easy enough but not wanting to pop out yet. back ends are full of grease so that's a good sign.
I think I will make the tool that FOG showed me and try again.