Using two stock light springs in distributor advance, good idea?

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Well, I guess best case scenario is to use a distributor machine if you can get access to one. Your baseline based on your combination is still a "guess" being that you are going to get "close" as far as how much static, and how much mechanical all in by what rpm. You are still going to have to fine tune in what is "optimal to your combination" with some seat of the pants, chassis dyno, or preferably, drag strip tuning.
I'm going to try the two light springs as a start and go from there. No fancy machine available. If the curve is way off I'll order the springs and plate. I'm hoping I get lucky since this build is on the cheap. Thanks guys!
 
I have a stack of his limiter plates and hate to spend 40$ on a few springs...
 
I'm sure he wouldn't have an issue getting some out to you
 
There is a guide in the ignition section as well about slot length in the advance cam plate, us it to set your slot length for your baseline, weld the slot on the shaft side to shorten it so you put tension on the light advance springs when they are at zero advance, you can always stretch one spring coil open like the re curve directions show (lightest one first) if you need it to advance faster.
 
Why are we "guessing" at what works? Put your combo on a distributer machine and know how much advance you have. Also it will show you the rate of advance at any RPM. Use the machine and know what you got and tailor the advance to meet your needs.

Why does he need an antiquated distributor machine that's hard to find? He has an engine he can use as the distributor machine. Nobody's guessing. We're giving him good, solid guidelines to use as a starting point. He can do the same thing with the engine as he can a distributor machine that most likely no one he knows has.
 
Once again, I must bow before the master of the board for saying exactly what I was thinking. As much as I would like to have access to a distributor machine, you can do the same exact thing with a timing light and a tach. A distributor machine will tell you your advance rates at what rpm and so on, but eventually you have to run the distributor to see if the baseline you establish is correct or needs fine tuning.
 
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I've seen that plate and spring kit. If the new distributor has a advance plate over 13 then I'll probably go with that kit. I'm not looking for every tenth down the drag strip but I definitely would like to wake up my 318!

There is no factory distributor that has a short enough advance curve, except maybe for the earlier performance setups. Something "pre smog" IE 67/ earlier. Even then most of us would like a shorter curve

BEAR IN MIND that factory specs are DISTRIBUTOR degrees so you have to double that to figure crank advance.
 
Why are we "guessing" at what works? Put your combo on a distributer machine and know how much advance you have. Also it will show you the rate of advance at any RPM. Use the machine and know what you got and tailor the advance to meet your needs.
Don't even need a dist. machine. We all have timing lights, don't we?
 
So I'm upgrading my points ignition on my '71 318 Dart to factory electronic ignition. I know that the factory distributors have quite a long advance. Would taking the light spring from my old distributor and putting it in place of my heavy spring in the new distributor give me a fairly good advance curve? I know total advance won't be affected. Anyone try this before?


it will probably work well with two stock light springs.. total will come over 2400 rpm somewhere....

you figure a stock light spring and a mp or mr gasket light spring brings total in at 2000-2200 rpm so two stock light ones will be a bit higher then that...
 
The distributor machine for me is essential since I do by the number stock rebuilds mostly. But who has the room for one once every few years? A car works fine with a light and a tach. You need some springs let me know I will send them to you. There are a ton of different rate "light" springs out there and I have done that on certain ones for a custom curve works great.
 
The distributor machine for me is essential since I do by the number stock rebuilds mostly. But who has the room for one once every few years? A car works fine with a light and a tach. You need some springs let me know I will send them to you. There are a ton of different rate "light" springs out there and I have done that on certain ones for a custom curve works great.
Will do. This is just a fun car/ budget build so every tiny fraction of hp isn't essential. Just doing the best with what I have.
 
Just clarifying, you used two stock Mopar light springs and not aftermarket? If so, that's pretty much dead on what I'm aiming for.
Yes, one light one that is a little on the stiff side out of my 318 smog distributor and an even lighter one from an ‘85 D350 360 distributor. My underhood tach/dwell meter was a being a little fidgety that day but advance is all in between 25-26 hundred rpm. I am right there with you on the fun part, but can’t keep myself from going after everything I can find on the table for free.
 
Just fyi the studs the springs go to are eccentric and you can tighten and also loosen them and you can possibly get more out of it if you just need a bit.
 
Just fyi the studs the springs go to are eccentric and you can tighten and also loosen them and you can possibly get more out of it if you just need a bit.
That’s good to know, do you care to show us a pic of that if you have a unit handy? I know I’ll be re-curving when I make the change to deeper gears, and may need the extra adjustment
 
I have a unit but last time I posted it the thread got cut down! What unit you need pics of? The spring shaft adjusters?
 
Lolol! Why, yes the spring stud adjusters, no, please, not the other unit... I should have said distributor torn down to lower plate unit, things were a little busy at the time.
 
Here your go one of my tricks! Love this stuff!
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well that call to Don at 4secondsflat for a few dizzy springs cost me 500$!
He upsold me into a Daytona CD-1 CDI ignition system...lol
3 rev limiters
Programmable ign curve
and more...cool
 
BTW... He has a killer price of these ! 440$ (IIRC) + I ordered the springs and some misc stuff. Thats about $100 Cheaper than anywhere else !
Includes the coil...
 
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