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Thought this might be informative to some poor guy who buys a Super Victor with lovely thoughts of just bolting it on.

This one is, I think my fifth. 2nd one for me and I did 3 for friends. This one is very typical of what ya get.

I posted a pic of my "porting station". It keeps the aluminum somewhat contained.

As you can see in the 2 pics of the port pairs, you have no choice but to grind away. Those 2 pics are upside down, passenger side.
Slide it forward and you lose port #4, slide it back and you lose #6.

There's also a full shot of the driver's side as is, out of the box. Pretty much the same thing.
It's certainly not a "head issue" either. Mine are ported Eddy's, I've done one for Indy/RHS, and one for a pair of very mildly ported J heads....also one for some Hughes Edelbrocks.

It's a shame they are so damn far off......doesn't anyone at Edelbrock do research on their stuff? Maybe I'm just unlucky or something.

The last pic is a completed shot. That little pile of aluminum doesn't include all the chips my shop vac got.
It ain't pretty or perfect but it will make power. In spite of all the work, I really love the Super Victor. From 4500 to 7 grand they pull like a freight train.

I've run the Airgap, last summer the Victor 340 and the S Victor, and for a fact, at least with my stuff , it ain't even close.

All above is of course, my own opinion.:BangHead:
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@Ironmike

Hoooo-Leeeeee chit!!

Baha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!

You say it ain’t even close, as in, the performance of the intake (after the work is done) vs the other intakes?
 
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Ironmike said:
Thought this might be informative to some poor guy who buys a Super Victor with lovely thoughts of just bolting it on.

This one is, I think my fifth. 2nd one for me and I did 3 for friends. This one is very typical of what ya get.

I posted a pic of my "porting station". It keeps the aluminum somewhat contained.

As you can see in the 2 pics of the port pairs, you have no choice but to grind away. Those 2 pics are upside down, passenger side.
Slide it forward and you lose port #4, slide it back and you lose #6.

There's also a full shot of the driver's side as is, out of the box. Pretty much the same thing.
It's certainly not a "head issue" either. Mine are ported Eddy's, I've done one for Indy/RHS, and one for a pair of very mildly ported J heads....also one for some Hughes Edelbrocks.

It's a shame they are so damn far off......doesn't anyone at Edelbrock do research on their stuff? Maybe I'm just unlucky or something.

The last pic is a completed shot. That little pile of aluminum doesn't include all the chips my shop vac got.
It ain't pretty or perfect but it will make power. In spite of all the work, I really love the Super Victor. From 4500 to 7 grand they pull like a freight train.

I've run the Airgap, last summer the Victor 340 and the S Victor, and for a fact, at least with my stuff , it ain't even close.

All above is of course, my own opinion.:BangHead:View attachment 1715291293 View attachment 1715291295 View attachment 1715291297 View attachment 1715291299 View attachment 1715291300
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Very typical, I hate edelbrock ****, because that's what it is....over priced ****.

340 Victors are not far from the super when it comes to fkd up port windows "as cast".
 
rumblefish360 said:
@Ironmike

Hoooo-Leeeeee chit!!

Baha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!

You say it ain’t even close, as in, the performance of the intake (after the work is done) vs the other intakes?
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I meant performance, brutha! It might be closer on paper, but man that above 4500 pull with the S Victor is just a total rush.
IF y'all check back in the old posts, my Victor 340 made 576 @ 6200, but the "feel" just wasn't there for me.Kinda ho-hum seat of pants.
Old dyno runs I have show the S Victor pulling HARD all the way to 7K. 340 Vic fell off after 62.

The 340 Vic was not nearly as bad, fit wise. But yeah. It needed work.
 
Oh. Forgot. I wish the S Victor had the plenum of the 340 Vic. They extend the runners maybe half inch or so. Might have a bit more down low, without giving up that great top end. Maybe.

340 plenum then the Super Vic. The S Vic is out of box.
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I’m a Victor340 lover after a little bit of porting work. A Super Victor will make some steam but not without lots of grinding. I ended up going 9.74 with one one my Edelbrock headed 408 and it’s been sitting on my shelf gathering dust ever since. My next 408 will be getting an Indy intake that I modified to work on Edelbrock heads
 
pittsburghracer said:
I’m a Victor340 lover after a little bit of porting work. A Super Victor will make some steam but not without lots of grinding. I ended up going 9.74 with one one my Edelbrock headed 408 and it’s been sitting on my shelf gathering dust ever since. My next 408 will be getting an Indy intake that I modified to work on Edelbrock heads
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I just installed a regular polished 2954 victor my 440/505 wedge.
It was the best "hands down" intake to start with, I`ve ever messed with !
I am no expert porter, but got it to flow as much as my heads , and with only 15 cfm spread between the runners , and I did find a couple of small hickups in the lowest 2 runners that I missed before flowing it , so I`m thinking it will be even closer than 15 . Now on to the cable brackets , my previous set up wont work with the added height , neither will my air filter either.
 
I can attest that my Holley Strip Dominator was right on and matched with very little work. Now it may not flow as well in stock form but mine is a street car.
 
I think we all should be very thankful that the small block Super Victor comes with such small ports and needs to be worked on. It allows you to adapt it to almost any head you start with. On our small block stroker build it was easy to adjust the Super Victor to the Indy/RHS iron heads where we were only able to make 474 LB-FT @ 3,000 rpm, 574 LB-FT @ 5100 rpm and 629 HP @ 6,400 rpm. That, and the Victor 340 OOTB nearly matches the size of many 318 head ports. We buy a racing manifold and pout about having to grind a little? Run everything completely stock if you don't want to work some.
 
IQ52 said:
I think we all should be very thankful that the small block Super Victor comes with such small ports and needs to be worked on. It allows you to adapt it to almost any head you start with. On our small block stroker build it was easy to adjust the Super Victor to the Indy/RHS iron heads where we were only able to make 474 LB-FT @ 3,000 rpm, 574 LB-FT @ 5100 rpm and 629 HP @ 6,400 rpm. That, and the Victor 340 OOTB nearly matches the size of many 318 head ports. We buy a racing manifold and pout about having to grind a little? Run everything completely stock if you don't want to work some.
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No. We're complaining about how off "end to end" the port windows are, they barely make the gasket.
308 castings are pretty off as well.
Victor 340 always flows better with a blended spacer. Fwiw.
 
MOPAROFFICIAL said:
No. We're complaining about how off "end to end" the port windows are, they barely make the gasket.
308 castings are pretty off as well.
Victor 340 always flows better with a blended spacer. Fwiw.
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^^This^^

I'm sure the port windows are small by design, I just wish they had taken the time to align the port centers to the heads better. Some of my ports took a bunch of grinding on one side and would've been better if I could've added material to the other side.
 
No real complaining here. In fact I kind of enjoy the work. The issue is the price. It should reflect the "needs finishing" part.
 
I picked mine up in a package deal and knowing what I know now I would NEVER pay that much for that intake. At the bargain basement price I paid for it, it's a keeper.
 
pittsburghracer said:
I picked mine up in a package deal and knowing what I know now I would NEVER pay that much for that intake. At the bargain basement price I paid for it, it's a keeper.
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WARNING: THREAD JACK !
Any one ever try to build/get, a decent air filter on a 440 with the throttle body or carb. up in the scoop ? (victor 2954 intake)
The front half of my throttle body is about 1/2 way at hood line , the back is about 7/8 above the hood line, all under a 6 pack scoop.
This is gonna take some rigging I`m afraid . I WOULD BE OPEN TO ALL SUGGESTIONS -----LOL----BOB
 
famous bob said:
WARNING: THREAD JACK !
Any one ever try to build/get, a decent air filter on a 440 with the throttle body or carb. up in the scoop ? (victor 2954 intake)
The front half of my throttle body is about 1/2 way at hood line , the back is about 7/8 above the hood line, all under a 6 pack scoop.
This is gonna take some rigging I`m afraid . I WOULD BE OPEN TO ALL SUGGESTIONS -----LOL----BOB
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I don't know if this will help you or not but my carb was up in the scoop on my black Duster. I used an old road sign I found for the right price and a "drop base" from Summit.


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pittsburghracer said:
I don't know if this will help you or not but my carb was up in the scoop on my black Duster. I used an old road sign I found for the right price and a "drop base" from Summit.


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Thanks.
I have been running a dropped / offset base with the torquer 2 , but this is a whole diff. animal, been thinking along your lines , but need a deeper offset base , and still it would be too high. Thinking about an alum. one and doing surgery on it, and then something like yours.. ???????????
I have about a 16" round hole in the hood , centered under the 6 pack scoop already that complicates the problem.
 
famous bob said:
Thanks.
I have been running a dropped / offset base with the torquer 2 , but this is a whole diff. animal, been thinking along your lines , but need a deeper offset base , and still it would be too high. Thinking about an alum. one and doing surgery on it, and then something like yours.. ???????????
I have about a 16" round hole in the hood , centered under the 6 pack scoop already that complicates the problem.
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Sorry. I tried. LOL.
 
pittsburghracer said:
I picked mine up in a package deal and knowing what I know now I would NEVER pay that much for that intake. At the bargain basement price I paid for it, it's a keeper.
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Bought mine off here for about 175.00-or 200.00 if I remember right.Edelbrock is a tired company imo.
They've done about zero R&D in the last 20 or more years, and only raise their prices and produce junk castings. I can only imagine how big their '2nds and mistake' pile is.... bet some of that gets an inspection and is boxed up anyways...
 
MOPAROFFICIAL said:
I can only imagine how big their '2nds and mistake' pile is.... bet some of that gets an inspection and is boxed up anyways...
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That's part of the beauty of metal casting. If it drops a turd out of the mold, you just toss it back into the furnace. Most won't try to save poor castings unless there have been value add operations (cleaning, machining, etc.) performed on a piece. They must have a pretty crappy process for units with that much shift going out.
 
No more Edelbrocks for me. I'm grabbing the Trick Flows at some point. Thought they were getting released this month...
 
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