NHRA STOCK CLASS DUSTER

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rumblefish360 said:
LMAO
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Well, you can’t always be a Diplomat on every response!
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I have also found it hard to read the rulebook and retain information as well as reading in between the lines. As someone once said to me, the rulebook really just says what you can’t do! Not what you can get away with. LMAO
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Read the rule book and interpreting it is two different things.
Just like maintaining the stock interior when people take the armrest off for a straight side bar. That's not maintaining the stock interior the way I read it.
Then when they take a half a sentence out of a rule and change it. Sometimes you read right over the change.
It's nice to have someone answer direct questions. I greatly appreciate it. Thanks a lot.
 
Jadaharabi said:
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Read the rule book and interpreting it is two different things.
Just like maintaining the stock interior when people take the armrest off for a straight side bar. That's not maintaining the stock interior the way I read it.
Then when they take a half a sentence out of a rule and change it. Sometimes you read right over the change.
It's nice to have someone answer direct questions. I greatly appreciate it. Thanks a lot.
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Spend some time in the pits with stock and super stock at a divisional race, and you will learn a lot.
 
The divisional race at Houston will soon happen, it should be a good race as it's been a long time since there's been a good race in our area.
Don't think I'll make it though, both my cars are ready but all the related items needed to race are not ready.
Thanks for asking, that's means alot to me.
 
No, I'm sorry I won't be able to race this year, I haven't been able to work because of my health and don't have the extra money.
Sad to say I finally have the cars I've always wanted and can't use them.
Thanks for asking, please keep in touch.
 
Jeremy said:
No, I'm sorry I won't be able to race this year, I haven't been able to work because of my health and don't have the extra money.
Sad to say I finally have the cars I've always wanted and can't use them.
Thanks for asking, please keep in touch.
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Well that sucks.....get better, I would like to see you in Dallas in October ....
 
Jeremy said:
No, I'm sorry I won't be able to race this year, I haven't been able to work because of my health and don't have the extra money.
Sad to say I finally have the cars I've always wanted and can't use them.
Thanks for asking, please keep in touch.
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Awesome looking D/SA. Hope things go well for you.
I'm collecting parts to begin a stocker build myself, so I keep my ears open whenever anyone talks about them.

Good luck.
 
Let me know if I can do anything to help you get started with your stocker. Text me at 409 795 0644. Always remember it's cheaper to buy a good race car than to build one. Just be sure of what you want to end up with.
 
dart_68 said:
I talked to a guy at the Mile High Nationals about running a 360 power Duster in Stock and he said that they are not nearly competitive enough.
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Brother you might want to ask Justin Jerome who pulled his potent 340 last year in favor of a 360 and is kicking it in E/SA!!
 
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Ray Buckner is building a 360 Duster, his stuff is always one of the fastest in the country. He built Austin Williams Duster.
 
ewcpal said:
Brother you might want to ask Jeff Jerome who pulled his potent 340 last year in favor of a 360 and is kicking it in E/SA!!
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You mean Justin Jerome. While he is doing well, I believe by "competitive", it was insinuated that the 340 combo would run further under it's respective index (or heads-up) than a 360 combo if both were built to the max limit of the rules. I would have to agree.
 
I took them off because there are too many Guys on here that think there so smart, but don't have very little knowledge about racing a small block mopar
 
ewcpal said:
Brother you might want to ask Jeff Jerome who pulled his potent 340 last year in favor of a 360 and is kicking it in E/SA!!
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Justin Jerome won a heads up battle at the Spring Vegas NHRA race in stock finals against a 70 Camero ...Justin ran a 10.818 with that "stock"......Vegas is a good .25 hundreds slower then a sea level track. Justin his son is driving the Duster...
And I saw the ET slip cause I work the ET time slip both at both Nationals events in Vegas...It was his 1st national even win.

Heads-up! Weather conditions: air temperature 82 degrees, relative humidity 19 percent, barometer 27.99 inches, adjusted altitude 4,138 feet, track temperature 124 degrees.

Justin Jerome has 1 runner-up in his only previous final round. Ryan Mangus has been to 4 final rounds. He is looking for his 1st win.

Justin Jerome is better at the tree and he has the quicker car to take his 1st NHRA national event win. Justin Jerome's MOV: 0.0613 seconds (approximately 11 feet).

0.007 10.818 120.11
 
Your right Myron don't know why I had Jeff in my head (well I do like B Bodies too!) I did mean Justin... Look I didn't mean to claim the 360 to be superior over the 340... My 340 is still in place! What I meant to point out is there are at least two 360 powered Stock Eliminator A-Bodies out there that I'm aware of running numbers that ought to make anyone watching question whether the performance gap is as much as we all believed it to be for many years or maybe even still exists!

Justin's win in Vegas over Mangus and his National Championship winning Camaro was enough to make me stand up and notice... In the advent of some yahoo loosing focus and getting us hit with additional HP, the balancing point between both combos could easily swing if it isn't a wash already. I was there along with a rather healthy West Coast Mopar contingent helping Justin prep for that heads up final. I can assure you nothing was left on the table by either competitor and the results speak for themselves.

It was friggin awesome, baby!

LANE DRIVER CLASS DIAL IN RT 60 FT 330 FT 660 FT 660 FT MPH 1000 FT ET MPH OV/UN
Left Justin Jerome E/SA 11.90 .007 1.415 4.286 6.773 98.08 8.953 10.818 120.11 -1.082
Right Ryan Mangus E/SA 11.90 .028 1.376 4.299 6.802 97.56 8.990 10.858 120.01 -1.042
Heads-up! Weather conditions: air temperature 82 degrees, relative humidity 19 percent, barometer 27.99 inches, adjusted altitude 4,138 feet, track temperature 124 degrees. Justin Jerome has 1 runner-up in his only previous final round. Ryan Mangus has been to 4 final rounds. He is looking for his 1st win. Justin Jerome is better at the tree and he has the quicker car to take his 1st NHRA national event win. Justin Jerome's MOV: 0.0613 seconds (approximately 11 feet).
 
ewcpal said:
Your right Myron don't know why I had Jeff in my head (well I do like B Bodies too!) I did mean Justin... Look I didn't mean to claim the 360 to be superior over the 340... My 340 is still in place! What I meant to point out is there are at least two 360 powered Stock Eliminator A-Bodies out there that I'm aware of running numbers that ought to make anyone watching question whether the performance gap is as much as we all believed it to be for many years or maybe even still exists!

Justin's win in Vegas over Mangus and his National Championship winning Camaro was enough to make me stand up and notice... In the advent of some yahoo loosing focus and getting us hit with additional HP, the balancing point between both combos could easily swing if it isn't a wash already. I was there along with a rather healthy West Coast Mopar contingent helping Justin prep for that heads up final. I can assure you nothing was left on the table by either competitor and the results speak for themselves.

It was friggin awesome, baby!

LANE DRIVER CLASS DIAL IN RT 60 FT 330 FT 660 FT 660 FT MPH 1000 FT ET MPH OV/UN
Left Justin Jerome E/SA 11.90 .007 1.415 4.286 6.773 98.08 8.953 10.818 120.11 -1.082
Right Ryan Mangus E/SA 11.90 .028 1.376 4.299 6.802 97.56 8.990 10.858 120.01 -1.042
Heads-up! Weather conditions: air temperature 82 degrees, relative humidity 19 percent, barometer 27.99 inches, adjusted altitude 4,138 feet, track temperature 124 degrees. Justin Jerome has 1 runner-up in his only previous final round. Ryan Mangus has been to 4 final rounds. He is looking for his 1st win. Justin Jerome is better at the tree and he has the quicker car to take his 1st NHRA national event win. Justin Jerome's MOV: 0.0613 seconds (approximately 11 feet).
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Understood. It would be interesting to have a head-up '71 340 vs '74 360 at the same weight, or even at NHRA factors. But IMO, in NHRA, the 340 seems to have the advantage making good use of the compression & bigger valves that 20 extra cubic inches and bigger carb can't make up. A good example is that Jeremy had run a best of 10.38 in "D" and I've seen other 340's in the mid 10's. I'm very curious what the fastest ET for a '74 360 is, but I would still bet it's slower by good bit. But I wouldn't mind being proven wrong at some point.

Heads-up races are cool and Indy was another example. Incrementals are always interesting as well. Unfortunately, if I ever get my J-K/SA Aspen wagon going again, there will be very few people who would have to worry much about a heads-up with me. Too much time and money spent so far and it being just an index runner. Plus, it's been broke this year. Tough starting from scratch after IHRA.
 
OK just to clarify I'm not comparing any HI Compression 340 combinations to their 360 counterparts. remember we've seen Jerry Hatch in the 9's in his 70 Hi Comp 340 Duster (Mind boggling). My observations were simply regarding those of us running 73/74 bodies and the flexibility these bodies afford us. With the current 293/301 hp power factors for both motors, I like many believe the 340 may still offer an advantage, just not as confident as I once was how large that advantage may be.
 
I agree the low compression 340 and the 360 are about the same.
BUCKNER has had both on the same Dyno and they were very equal at the now rated horsepower.
The high compression horsepower was just lowered 3 horsepower and may be better in there own classes but not by much.
 
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