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A408Cuda

A408Cuda

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I just read a post on another topic, and someone posted how there's no point in owning a diesel truck this day in age. Kinda torqued me a little, in fact said poster said there only for rich guys and 18-21 year old's that wanna blow black smoke. Who all agrees with that?
I for one wouldn't be without my diesel truck and have never owned a gas truck that would come close to pulling what it can. I know I'm going to get **** for this one but I've always owned Ford diesel's, I'm a fan of the Cummin's but i like my F-350's. In the end it doesn't matter Ford, Chevy or Dodge you cant beat a diesel for a working truck.
 
While you're playing with DEF, DPF's, limp mode, fuel pumps, fuel separators, error codes, regens, head gaskets, cooked turbos, stuck injectors, broken sensors, ect....I be dragging an excavator past the dealership full of broken diesels.
 
I read an article that said buy the new ram 3/4 ton diesel manual gear box. Last year any full size with a stick and used a 20 or so year old cummins with 250k stick as example of what they go for now. I’m putting a TDI in my 93 eurovan when I need a break from my notch. Love the diesel
 
I wouldn’t be with out a diesel. I bought my first 1 in 1999. 1992 w250 4x4. then in 03 I bought a 01 quad cab 4x4 which I still have 437 K on it. I also have a 06 gmc Duramax hd 4 door 4x4. U can’t beat the pulling power of a diesel or the mileage. My gas trucks sucked for pulling and the mileage towing was atrocious. Kim
 
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While you're playing with DEF, DPF's, limp mode, fuel pumps, fuel separators, error codes, regens, head gaskets, cooked turbos, stuck injectors, broken sensors, ect....I be dragging an excavator past the dealership full of broken diesels.
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Sounds like you had a bad experience, I'm assuming by your post you've owned a few. Because if you haven't I'd say you were talking out your ***. Maybe you should call Peterbilt, Kenworth and all the other's to let them dumb fuckers know they should have been using gas engines all these years. As far as pulling you excavator, give me a break man

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This **** don't count!
 
I have never really had any break downs with mine. I have seen and fixed my share of diesels, but mostly from abuse. Big chips/ programmers, big tires, neglect etc.yes I’ve deleated a few alrighty. If u drive it sanely they will last like anything else out there. Kim
 
16 Cummins, 24MPG freeway, 19 in town unloaded. This is my first one I could own. I have had all my previous trucks 327 1500/ 350 1500/ 429 f250/ v6 nissan.... I will never go back. They all had issues, but for what I have had to deal with compared to this. Diesel wins. Longer life, more torque. when pulling it seems as though there is never a trailer there.

There are diferences, and you have to know that stuff otherwise you will get clogged injectors, cooking turbos, and such. But it comes down to maint and learning the differences..
 
I don't have a issue with gas trucks and your 100% right diesel's need taken care of as all vehicles do. For me a diesel truck is what suits my needs. If i was just running to the store to buy tampons a gasser would do fine, but I'm not I haul **** so I need a diesel. Point is saying diesel's are obsolete and only for those who wanna waste there money and blow black smoke is flat out ignorant.
 
I noticed one thing all you guys who love diesels have in common...you all own old ones. Give a newer one a whirl. You might change your tune.
 
Did I say the year of mine?? no but since you asked its 2011 6.7 same engine as the new one's. Has it been in the shop? Glad you asked, yes it has, everything needs tires and oil changes. 170,000 mile's bought brand new with 11 miles on it been pulling its whole life.
 
Well, I would agree when it comes to the regular guy pulling normal stuff. In no way would I compare that to a big rig. They have their purpose and they are great for some things but the best diesels ever made have already come and gone. DEF and emission requirements have ruined the diesel engine. Every fleet company I deal with has switched from diesel trucks to gas rigs. This has been due to the unbelievable repair costs of new diesel trucks. Older diesels are still great. New ones, wouldn't have one. I just can't own something that I know at any time could throw a 4-6-8k repair bill at me.
 
1995dak said:
Well, I would agree when it comes to the regular guy pulling normal stuff. In no way would I compare that to a big rig. They have their purpose and they are great for some things but the best diesels ever made have already come and gone. DEF and emission requirements have ruined the diesel engine. Every fleet company I deal with has switched from diesel trucks to gas rigs. This has been due to the unbelievable repair costs of new diesel trucks. Older diesels are still great. New ones, wouldn't have one. I just can't own something that I know at any time could throw a 4-6-8k repair bill at me.
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Very well said, and my point exactly. They are now toys for affluent civilians. They in no way make any financial sense to a business owner. My friend owns a towing company, and as you stated he has slowly replaced his whole fleet with gas trucks just like I have. He is amazed at the money he's saved.

Diesel guys are very passionate about their trucks, and I think that passion leads to blindness. I don't think they realize that it's actually a hobby to them. For somebody who just wants the damn thing to start and make money there's no comparison. If you want a truck, buy gas. If you want a hobby, buy a diesel. Neither is right or wrong. Buy whatever makes you money, or makes you happy.
 
You guys should really talk the military, let them know how they have been getting it wrong for so many years.
 
A408Cuda said:
You guys should really talk the military, let them know how they have been getting it wrong for so many years.
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Well I'm sure you're aware that they have SOP's for everything, an unlimited budget, dedicated mechanics, and schedules. The reason they use diesel actually has much more to do with logistics than nuts and bolts. They have to concern themselves with getting fuel in far flung places, transporting and storing it safely, and shelf life.
 
A408Cuda said:
You guys should really talk the military, let them know how they have been getting it wrong for so many years.
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:lol: Repair costs are probably not as big of an issue to the United States Military.

Did I misread something? I thought you asked for everyone's opinion? Or just opinions that align with yours?
 
Its a good thing winter roads are being replaced with real roads. Its easier to get the big rigs out of the north when they crap out.
My buddy was flat-decking a broken down mack a couple weeks ago during the cold snap,he counted 8 rigs on the side of the road, some were crawling along in limp mode while others were sitting dead.
Def does not work in extreme low temps. The emissions requirements are killing the trucking industry.
 
1995dak said:
:lol: Repair costs are probably not as big of an issue to the United States Military.

Did I misread something? I thought you asked for everyone's opinion? Or just opinions that align with yours?
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I don't mind everybody's opinion, problem is categorizing diesel truck owners as rich guys with toys or coal rollers. I seriously doubt either one of you anti diesel guys have ever pulled a 30k goose-neck with your gas truck. Yet you say diesels are obsolete just because you don't need one. Then you say there broke down all the time...Please show me those facts.. I agree if you don't need one you don't need one but then again you could make that argument for a lot of things.
 
Tooljunkie said:
Its a good thing winter roads are being replaced with real roads. Its easier to get the big rigs out of the north when they crap out.
My buddy was flat-decking a broken down mack a couple weeks ago during the cold snap,he counted 8 rigs on the side of the road, some were crawling along in limp mode while others were sitting dead.
Def does not work in extreme low temps. The emissions requirements are killing the trucking industry.
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And I have gelled up before but that's typically the fuel stations fault for not selling the proper blend or the owners fault for not purchasing the proper blend. As far as DEF goes these trucks are equipped with reductant tank heaters to solve that.
 
A408Cuda said:
You guys should really talk the military, let them know how they have been getting it wrong for so many years.
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Running diesel engines on military equipment is as much about interoperability as it is about fuel stability.
Diesel engines have their place. There are upsides, and major downsides, just like running a SL6, SB, or BB.

That said, there are plenty of "tough guy" types out there running 3/4ton diesels and BB A-bodies, and plenty of legit BAMFs driving SL6s and V6 EcoBoost trucks :)
 
A408Cuda said:
I don't mind everybody's opinion, problem is categorizing diesel truck owners as rich guys with toys or coal rollers. I seriously doubt either one of you anti diesel guys have ever pulled a 30k goose-neck with your gas truck. Yet you say diesels are obsolete just because you don't need one. Then you say there broke down all the time...Please show me those facts.. I agree if you don't need one you don't need one but then again you could make that argument for a lot of things.
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Again, I am not anti-diesel. Love me a 12 valve and have had one. I would not have a NEW diesel truck. Not only rich guys have them. I know a lot of hard working guys that use their trucks for work all the time. Just the vast majority of them are 12/24 valve cummins trucks or old 7.3 trucks. Because the average working man cannot drop thousands on repairs at the drop of a hat. I pull huge **** all the time. My 98 3/4 ton 4x4 v10 Ram pulls anything, and I mean anything I put behind it or drop on the gooseneck. Gets 12 unloaded and 9-10 pulling anything you want to hook it to. Again, I use it when I need it and do not drive it daily. Fuel pump went out last year, $150 bucks.
 
I admit I did not read the comments above, BUT a Cummins is a million mile motor. Yes you will rebuild the injection sysyem at what 500.000. You can not beat the power, the torque, the longevity. Cummins! IF you pull something bigger than a one car trailer.
 
Awesome truck those V10's I totally dig them, but more then twice the torque in a new powerstoke specs for both below.. just sayin
Engine Type
488 cid 90' V-10 OHV
Bore & Stroke
4.00 x 3.88 in. (101.6 x 98.6 mm.)
Displacement
488 cu.in. (8.0 L)
Compression Ratio
8.4 :1
Horsepower
310 hp @ 4100 rpm
Torque
450 ft. lbs. (617 N.m) @ 2400 rpm
Firing Order
1-10-9-4-3-6-5-8-7-2
Lubrication
Pressure Feed - Full Flow Filtration
(Direct Crankshaft Driven Pump )
Engine Oil Capacity
7.0 Qts. (6.6 L)
Cooling System
Liquid Cooled - Forced Circulation
Cooling Capacity
21.75 Qts. (20.5 L)
Cylinder Block
Cast Iron
Crankshaft
Nodular Cast Iron
Cylinder Head
Cast Iron
Combustion Cambers
Wedge - High Swirl
Camshaft
Nodular Cast Iron
Pistons
Cast Aluminum Alloy
Connecting Rods
Forged Steel

2019 Ford 6.7 liter powerstoke
Fuel Capacity

29 gallons

34 gallons
48 gallons
Drive Type
4x2
4x4
Available Engines
6.2L V8 Gas (FFV)
6.7L Power Stroke® V8 Turbo Diesel
Horsepower
385 @ 5750 rpm (6.2L V8)
450 @ 2800 rpm (6.7L Power Stroke® Turbo Diesel)
Torque
430 @ 3800 rpm (6.2L V8)
935 @ 1800 rpm (6.7L Power Stroke® Turbo Diesel)
Transmission
TorqShift® G 6-speed SelectShift Automatic®
TorqShift® 6-speed SelectShift Automatic®
Wheelbase
141.2 (Regular Cab)
148.0" (SWB SuperCab); 164.2" (LWB SuperCab)
159.8" (SWB Crew Cab); 176.0" (LWB Crew Cab)
Maximum Conventional Towing
21,000 lbs.
Maximum 5th Wheel Towing
27,500 lbs.
Maximum Gooseneck Towing
35,000 lbs.
Maximum Payload
7,640 lbs.
Maximum GVWR
14,000 lbs.
 
I mean no offense to you 1995dak but V10's are obsolete that's why you cant buy one anymore, diesels on the other hand are far from being obsolete, why do you think all the manufactures are bringing out 1/2 ton diesels? You can buy a ram 1500 diesel, Chevy Colorado diesel, and ford f 150 diesel. Toyota Helix's have been the main truck over seas for years, guess what there all diesel's. They have there problems adapting to emissions ill admit, but so did gas engines in the 80's and 90's it'll get better. This is the first time in history that regular sized pick-up's have been sold that will safely pull 35 and 40,000 lbs and they're diesel not gas.
 
I have a 14 ram cummins 3500 dually, I bought the truck for the sole purpose of never wondering if I'll have enough, can pull what ever I throw at it. Open road I get 26mpg and mines not even broken in yet just at 57000 miles. Def does suck, but its biting those who wanted it in the butt since it's not the money maker they thought it was going to be, been biting them since 06 1/2 rams when the first 6.7 came out. Each do have their advantages, I even drive .one every day it's my daily. Maintenance isn't that bad really, but you cant really beat the torque of a diesel. Just my .02
 
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