318 Engine stumble

Thanks for the better distributor info; helps a lot. Mmmmm, I'm not at all convinced that the weight and plate motion is the problem. I would not do anything there at this time.

You sound to be on the right track on how to limit the total advance: limit the movement of the center top plate. BTW, that plate moves CW on the shaft as mechanical advance increases. This moves the points on the reluctor CW, and that means they line up with the points on the pickup earlier in the rotation, and that advances the spark.

Please help me understand a few statements better:

When the reluctor wheel is offset like you show, is this when the rotor is properly pointing at the spark tower?

In the first sentence, when you say 'it', do you mean getting the rotor lined up at 0* or the time when the spark fires? The meaning of 'it' is not clear to me.

And to be sure we are talking the right terms, you advance the distributor timing by turning the distributor body CCW. If you move the distributor body CCW to make the points line up (as in your pix), you are advancing the timing.

Here is an article that appears to discuss the exact problem you are having with rotor phasing. The OP's 'customers' changed pickups and suddenly the rotor phasing was off by 22*. Please look at the pix near the bottom of the 1st page to see how different pickups have the wires color coded in reverse. Perhaps you got the wrong pickup? These are pretty cheap distributors made in China so anything goes IMHO....
MSD HEI new module timing off big time? - Speed Talk

I read the 1st post in that link. That is either close or my exact problem.

I don’t know how far off it is but it is definitely off as you can see.
I read that post but I’m not really sure what they are saying. I don’t understand how the Hei works with the module yet. Crossing the wires.....I don’t know.
This seems like a physical problem.

It looked like he was able to put it back in phase with the vaccum advance but all he did in that post was replace electronic parts. I think the pick up coil.
How would that affect this.

I messed with this all day and it drove me nuts.