Need to get my rimblow or my cash back

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Hey Joey, did you kick him off here or all the sites? I know he has accounts on C bodies and B bodies as well. I also got burned by this guy via PayPal but that was about 4-5 months ago. Well past the 90 day dispute time period... gave me a story he was in the hospital.
 
Hey Joey, did you kick him off here or all the sites? I know he has accounts on C bodies and B bodies as well. I also got burned by this guy via PayPal but that was about 4-5 months ago. Well past the 90 day dispute time period... gave me a story he was in the hospital.

Guess what @Moparbrad? Paypal amended its policy awhile back that now allows buyers to file a claim up to 180 days -- basically six months -- from the date of the transaction! It used to be only 45 days. Go get him!!!!
 
Thanks yall. Feels nice to do something good for somebody. Especially when the guy that ripped him off is lookin at this thread chewin nails.
 
Hey Joey, did you kick him off here or all the sites? I know he has accounts on C bodies and B bodies as well. I also got burned by this guy via PayPal but that was about 4-5 months ago. Well past the 90 day dispute time period... gave me a story he was in the hospital.
Uh, oh.
The cockroach is on the other sites also. :elmer:
 
Hey Joey, did you kick him off here or all the sites? I know he has accounts on C bodies and B bodies as well. I also got burned by this guy via PayPal but that was about 4-5 months ago. Well past the 90 day dispute time period... gave me a story he was in the hospital.

yes, I kicked him from all the sites
 
PayPal didnt fail. Go back and read it PROPERLY. Seller is a scammer.
Send the MO anyway.
I'll send a few bucks via PayPal Roy.

I read it properly....lets see...the guy is out his money and product but paypal didn't fail him??? hahaha, ok.... a scammer is a scammer regardless if paying by money order or your "safe" paypal....bottom line, it is all about sellers integrity
 
FGILL FOR PRESIDENT!! THANKS FOR THE GREAT ADVICE. Go get him, Roy.

I posted this in another thread here, about similar issues, but it bears repeating in this case. By the way I am former LEO, so I do speak with some knowledge of this stuff.
If you "really" want to do something about him and others of his kind, (because he will just show up under a new ID at some point) you have to put in the work.
Well, here ya go:
Start with: researching him. Find all you can. Does he have a business/occupational license? own property? does his name, his wifes name, address's, email, phone#, etc pop up on the web, under other forums, advertisements or complaints. they often will use family members names to keep the scam going as thiers gets burned up. Save all of it, no matter how trivial. Some info often leads to other info. Google is a great tool, there are many others, some are not free. You are going to need this info, so the more the better.
1. File a police report in his jurisdiction. You can file with local PD, county or even state in some cases. It makes an important papertrail for later on. just insist on getting a report #. This wont get your $ back and dont expact swat to go kick in his door, thats not the intention here.. but maybe his local PD has him on radar already and needs a little more to move on or build a solid case. Clowns like this rarely hit once and move on and often work in multiple arenas (like ID theft, check fraud, stolen merch, etc), so he's probably doing other scams locally.
2. You can also (& should) issue him a formal "pay or surrender" letter. This can be done thru you on a well written letter & sent registered mail, or on attorney letterhead if you have a friend or other legal service avail, (like thru your employee benefits, etc.) so the cost is minimal, sometimes is free.
The mere threat of legal action arriving on a door step, for some, has gotten good results.
3. His actions also violates FTC laws, as it was interstate commerce and violates The Federal Telecommunications Act (as it was intentional fraudelent activity done over the web/phone) and probably several state commerce laws. (see your state attorney generals office website) File with everyone you can. Do NOT make anything up, keep it factual. You simply want to put his name in the data bases. I'd also more than happily use the IRS fraud reporting website to toss his name in thier party hat, as you can "reasonably suspect" that he is taking in (fraudulent) income and certainly not paying taxes on it. oppps.
You want him to $#@! bricks, have him get an IRS audit notification, which non-complainace with, (ignoring it) is far worse than being found to have taken in unreported income from illegal scams.. The IRS works with ALL other agentcies, so again, your earlier reporting actions now have a trickle effect.
4. I would then take these reports and file with his internet service provider & Phone Co. All of them have what are known as TOS (terms of service) which include blaa blaa blaa about not using thier service for illegal activity. Demand that they enforce thier TOS and press it hard & up the chain if need be. They all have a legal/fraud dept. You'd be surprised how ISP's & carriers dont play well with clowns like this and will shut his net &/or phone down pronto, (as they become liable for damages if they allow him to continue to operate an illegal enterprise, using thier service, after they have been notified/made aware of the problem)
I just gave you some key phase material there to use.
That alone is worth the time. thinking about him waking up tomorrow and finding all his web/phone shut off and no way to get it back right away and without starting over. I could see where that could be a real problem for clowns like him and his operations.
You can get his ISP from his email address (paypal will have his info too). His ISP # from any diurect email. His phone carrier info is easily searchable if you have the number. There are ways of also determining his actual location via phone & pic data. nuff said.
You will need to provide his service carriers with proof that you did all or most of the above. (thus the numbered list, such as a PD report)
Now:
"If" he is a repeat offender and this is not just a 1 time goof up on his part, then he is doing this not just here, but probably on other forums & social media outlets. Its a $20 scam here, $20 scam there type e-business. The reports/papertrail made with authorities will begin to stack up and eventually someone with some real teeth to bite, will take an interest in his dealings, if they arent already. You have to put him on thier radar and with interagentcy data bases these days, it really isnt as hard as it used to be.

Having said all that. "they" get away with it, by hoping people just shrugg it off and dont do anything about it. They keep the amounts low so its not a felony and not worth anyones time, but what they dont know is a pattern of doing so becomes felonious and covers a multitude of potential charges. Crossing state lines up's the ant'e considerably and they are dipping their toes into federal fun now.
Assuming the OPS statements are true and there are other vitims, he has blocked all communication, etc, I would be turning over every leaf in an effort to oust this clown and burn his life down piece by piece...including social media, craigslist ads, forum burst, etc. ...whats he going to do, sue you for slander/malice?? ha, the last thing he will do is go legal on you, in fact, tis the thing he will avoid at all cost, because it will shine a light on him and where he gets his $$.

It all comes down to how p/o are you about being stolen from? Do you need a part time hobby while the wife is at bingo or cooking dinner?
FABO has already banned him, but thats easy for him to get around if he knows how, he'll be back and Im sure FABO are not his only source of victims by a long shot.
He is probably reading this very thread. I hope so, as Ive given all his past & future victims and anyone who now searches his name on the web (this forum thread will pop up) tools to shut him down.
So, the ?? is - what are do ya really want to do about it?
 
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Explain how PayPal failed him? Explain how a MO would have been any different?
Back to your $5 stickers before i start calling you appropriate and accurate names that you wont like.
I read it properly....lets see...the guy is out his money and product but paypal didn't fail him??? hahaha, ok.... a scammer is a scammer regardless if paying by money order or your "safe" paypal....bottom line, it is all about sellers integrity
 
Using a US Postal Money Order here in the United States is a fabulous way to pay for things, especially when your seller is across state lines. It invokes Federal jurisdiction and the penalties for misuse are pretty stiff including fines and possible imprisonment. Just like Paypal though, they aren't free; a money order for $1 - $500 costs $1.20 and for one between $500-$1000 it's $1.60. In the case of the rim blow at hand, the Paypal fee would have been $80 + .29 transaction fee plus 2.9% for a total of $82.62.
 
Send me all your money via friends and family and you'll get nothing and like it!!!

:rofl:

Too bad about the BS, lesson learned. I sent money for a 20K 426 hemi that went F&F, no response either. Anybody want to help me out? :rolleyes:
 
Explain how PayPal failed him? Explain how a MO would have been any different?
Back to your $5 stickers before i start calling you appropriate and accurate names that you wont like.

LMAO...challenged I guess if I have to explain everything to you....reread my post 109.....I said it doesn't matter paypal or M.O. He would have got screwed by this seller ....as stated it comes down to sellers honesty.....the fact is he got screwed using PayPal which you seem to think is "the almighty payment system" must I speak slower so you can understand me? apparently
 
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I read it properly....lets see...the guy is out his money and product but paypal didn't fail him??? hahaha, ok.... a scammer is a scammer regardless if paying by money order or your "safe" paypal....bottom line, it is all about sellers integrity
Even if he would have sent a MO he would still be out of him money and product! I don't see the ideology behind this argument!? The problem in this particular case is the fact that he didnt use PayPal properly and he sent the money as a gift! And this is coming from a pro peer to peer PayPaler! Its not PayPals fault its the fact that we live in a world full if dishonest scumbags.
 
Your internet reputation is all you have to go on to get buyers or sellers to trust me that I will do right by them. Since most of you guys/gals I will never get to meet in person. I strive to keep my reputation on line good. I wish everyone did the same. Like in life, their are always going to be a few bad apples.
 
Apparently he's been at it on Cbodies also...

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And this pretty much tells it all:

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Roy says he has enough for the wheel. Good job FABO!! Not just another website!
 
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