Manual Steering Box Rebuild Questions

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I've got my gear pulled apart now. I cant seem to find a seal kit for the manual boxes, only the power units. Does anyone know if there is a seal kit available or do I have to source each seal separately?
Will the power seal kit contain all the seal I need and then some?
 
The last time I bought the seals they were available from NAPA. I don't remember anyone having a kit but maybe the steering gear rebuilders will put one together for you.
 
I've got my gear pulled apart now. I cant seem to find a seal kit for the manual boxes, only the power units. Does anyone know if there is a seal kit available or do I have to source each seal separately?
Will the power seal kit contain all the seal I need and then some?
Better to start a new thread on this. Search www.moparts.com. There is a post from ~2003 listing PN's, including the bearings if you want to go that far. I rebuilt my manual gear box a month ago. www.rockauto.com has some of the seals. The sector seal is the same as on power boxes (same year) but doesn't use the dust seal. I used gasket sealant in place of the sector head gasket. I filled w/ moly wheel bearing grease.
 
That is the link I used. You will find the "ball bearings at dealer" option a dead end. I tried my dealer and only 3 bearings listed in the U.S. Some were flaky (former dealer). I bought 1 bearing just in case. Mine were fine anyway. I bet you could find the bearings via another source. Bearings have come in standard metric sizes since the early 1900's (think Germany).
 
Okay so I got my manual boxfully disassembled and all cleaned up inside and out....yes those little ball bearings in the worm gear were not so fun at first either, lol, who comes up with something like that,lol ...and, just have a few questions.

Does anyone sell the seals for the steering shaft and the pitman shaft?

What kind of lube/oil is supposed to go in there? What do you guys run?

When I pulled that thing apart it just looked like someone nearly packed it with wheel bearing grease.

Thanks for your help!
I know this is an old topic but I am wondering the same lubrication issue too and this is what I found. Following is direct citation from original 1964 Dodge technical service manual.

"Every 6 months the lubricant level of the fluid should be inspected and if necessarry replenish to the level if filler hole with Multipurpose Gear Lubricant as defined by MIL-2105B. Use SAE 80 for temperatures ranging above- 30F, and if SAE 75 for temperatures below- 30F. If SAE 80 is not available SAE 90 may be used."

And they add a warning too:" CAUTION: DO NOT USE A PRESSURE GUN."
 
Gear lube is added when maintaining the gear (in vehicle).
Grease is used when rebuilding.
Why?
Because grease is a mix of oil, a thickener and additives. When the lubrication level in a box got low, it wasn't from the loss of thickener, but the loss of the oils. That, and grease put into the fill hole may sit on top for a long time. The lube will flow down.

For rebuilding, there's not a lot of info out there. The Ford and GM boxes aren't that different than ours. I could only find one of the early Ford specs on-line. Not too helpful as it called out components rather than performance. Maybe a tribologist could get more out of it than I did. The GM spec changed several times, but one interesting point was that the Corvette's got a slightly thicker grease, apparently because the engine compartment was hotter.
So for an mopar A-body with a v-8, headers, etc, a NLGI 2 Lithium or Lithium complex base is probably the best for rebuilding.

I know this is an old topic but I am wondering the same lubrication issue too and this is what I found. Following is direct citation from original 1964 Dodge technical service manual.

"Every 6 months the lubricant level of the fluid should be inspected and if necessarry replenish to the level if filler hole with Multipurpose Gear Lubricant as defined by MIL-2105B. Use SAE 80 for temperatures ranging above- 30F, and if SAE 75 for temperatures below- 30F. If SAE 80 is not available SAE 90 may be used."

And they add a warning too:" CAUTION: DO NOT USE A PRESSURE GUN."
 
I tried to find that John Deere JDM J 25C or JDM J13E4 grease here but couldn´t find it anywhere. Instead I found SKF LGEV2 grease which is especially ment for: "Extremely suitable for lubricating large sized spherical roller bearings subject to high loads and slow rotations, a situation where microslip is likely to occur. Extremely mechanically stable providing good water resistance and corrosion protection." And this grease is easy to reach allmost in any store in this sector.
 
from the spec sheet that looks OK and maybe very good for this. Just make sure you only mix it with greases that are compatible with that Lithium-Calcium base. Also the high temperature is a bit on the low side, but should be fine unless there are headers real close to the box. Even then, it might be OK. Only way to know is measure the temperature after a hard run and to check for oil seperation.

I tried to find that John Deere JDM J 25C or JDM J13E4 grease here but couldn´t find it anywhere. Instead I found SKF LGEV2 grease which is especially ment for: "Extremely suitable for lubricating large sized spherical roller bearings subject to high loads and slow rotations, a situation where microslip is likely to occur. Extremely mechanically stable providing good water resistance and corrosion protection." And this grease is easy to reach allmost in any store in this sector.
 
I thought about drilling and tapping the fill plug for a zerk but would then need to loosen something to keep from pumping the seals out...
 
The sector shaft seal crosses over to National 50151S $8.99 at O'reilly's or $1.97 at Summit then add $6 freight unless you already have an order...

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For lube, try Cotton Picker Spindle Lube from Tractor Supply. Heavier than oil, but lighter than grease. I was advised to use it in my Studebaker steering box.
 
Almost 3 year old thread. FYI, I have rebuilt and sold many a manual steering boxes. I have always used the Valvoline high temp red grease in them. It has the constancy of pudding.
 
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