318 vs. Slant value

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why are not auctions real world environments?

My opinion is a lot of people there with more $ than knowledge, too many people there with too much alcohol in their system. I would also bet many of those cars if offered for sale would never bring the price they brought at BJ.
I may be totally wrong.
 
you do have some valid points there, but I believe that those auctions have a greater reach to a larger audience. it increases competition among bidders to show real value. I see cars that sell for alot less than the same cars posted here on FABO for sale.

have you ever seen this?

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published 6 times a year, subscription is just under $18.00 a year. I would highly recommend anyone buying or seriously trying to sell a car see a current copy. it explains how prices are determined in how to use price guide.
 
That used to be on the news stand but haven't seen it for at least a decade.

It has it's issues (usually engine availability) but is a good tool if used along with ebay selling prices and CL asking prices versus time listings are live, and of course a good long historical knowledge of the cars
 
I first saw it at my hometown library, when I found out it was a $18.00 subscription, I'm in.
 
I see high end car auctions as to like high end horse sales (auctions). Lots of cars ( horses ) to see at one spot in one day or several days, to choose from. Good for buyers. Competition between bidders. Good for sellers.
People get caught up in the competition of bidding. Too many people do not get to talk directly to the seller (builder) for accurate info. Test, road drives?
Trying out a horse at a sale is not always in the cards. Tranquilized horses. Unsound horses on pain killers. The very high end sales will have owners furnish x rays. Up to seller to have them read by their vets.
Sales. Buyer beware. Car auction,... horse auction.
I have seen many prices in the mags that are not real world.

Reminds me of the Mopar mags in '92 still telling their readers how STRONG the market was and the market had already crashed and they KNEW IT!! So did the big collectors trying to unload before it got worse.
 
most collectors research the cars they want to buy. cars are posted weeks sometimes months before the auction on the auctioneer's web site. they also arrange inspections. people that buy high end cars use services to do the preliminary and even sometimes the bidding.
 
So let's say for example that a car has been "restored" say for example a 72 duster

A 340 or 360 sits in the engine bay, the front brakes have been swapped to newer disk brakes, rear end upgraded to a torque handler. Someone swapped in buckets and a console with good correct parts. Maybe a sharktooth grille to add flavor. A nice shiney mopar high impact color that is nice and waxable.

All that said, would it matter for the overall value of the car if it were originally a 318 v8 over a slant, or would the original engine size be irrelevant.???

for me the original engine size would be irrelevant.??? i'd rip the slant out and trash it anyway. depending what i wanted to use the car th 318 may have stayed. the additions you mentioned as long as its done right increase the value. not to original 340 car value though..
 
Before you swap motors into a /6 or teener car, make sure it’s not a rare documentable car.

Any car that is not original to its fender tag and build sheet is not worth the same value as a documented original car.

It’s worth what it is to you but don’t expect others to share your valueation.

not sure about that. a documented bare bones duster isn't really worth **** in th egrand scheme of things. properly transform it to a v8 car and value will increase.
 
Generally, the V8 car will be worth more. Possibly not to everyone, but that's how it is for the most part.
 
i have a perfect example here.. personally i think its worth more with the 360 and all in it. there is a very small minority that would prefer it stock.

bar bones original paint 70 dart.

i have a bunch of receipts from the original owner and a receipt from when he bought it...

original slant six, auto, rubber floor mat, drum brake and dealer installed a/c..

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now:
built 360 done up to look like a 340, auto, 8 3/4, front disc, 11" drum in the rear, 1" torsion bars, 383 rear springs and 15" wheels and tires all around....


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I agree Abodyjoe, the market for even a surviving slant A body is small, and as we know the slant guys are notoriously "conservative"> Lets face it, survivors of any kind are coll, but cool does nit always equal big $$, just like a rare does not always equal $$$$.
Yes you could buff that original slant and have it looking pretty darn good for the age, take it to a local pumkin roller car show, and have many people tell their slant stories and uggle over it, BUT I bet that ain't your deal.
I think Rani's original question was about where to drop in here 340, the rust free slant Duster, or the rusted banged up 318 Duster.
 
I agree Abodyjoe, the market for even a surviving slant A body is small, and as we know the slant guys are notoriously "conservative"> Lets face it, survivors of any kind are coll, but cool does nit always equal big $$, just like a rare does not always equal $$$$.
Yes you could buff that original slant and have it looking pretty darn good for the age, take it to a local pumkin roller car show, and have many people tell their slant stories and uggle over it, BUT I bet that ain't your deal.
I think Rani's original question was about where to drop in here 340, the rust free slant Duster, or the rusted banged up 318 Duster.

well we did take it places with the slant.. drove it that way for years as we gathered money and parts for the swap.. while neat that it was all original it was boring as hell to drive. what a slug..

I think Rani's original question was about where to drop in here 340, the rust free slant Duster, or the rusted banged up 318 Duster.

thats a no brainer. put it in the rust free duster...




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Got my 73 swinger that was my grandmas. Dad always said it was all original and it had 73k miles on it. Body needed quarters etc but the slant is cancer to drive!

I found the owners manual and it said 0-60 in 17.5 seconds and holy hell i live in the mountains and trying to go up a hill it struggles so im having a 360 put in.

I somehow doubt anyone would pay me more for the slant even though i have the original bill of sale than they would for the upgraded 360 and 8 3/4 sg rear.

The person wanting it would have to be eccentric as hell or just want it to sit around imo.
 
Do what is best for your pocket book, a clean car, with a weekend of bolt ons is cheaper that cutting a car in 1/2 and fixing rust, that takes a year or more.
My car is an old 318 poop brown auto, that is now a 340 4-speed.
Worth more than a poop brown 318? I dont know its not for sale.

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Do what is best for your pocket book, a clean car, with a weekend of bolt ons is cheaper that cutting a car in 1/2 and fixing rust, that takes a year or more.
My car is an old 318 poop brown auto, that is now a 340 4-speed.
Worth more than a poop brown 318? I dont know its not for sale.

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I've always had major disdain for them hood scoops, but it looks super good on your car. How's that air ratchet workin?
 
so I can solve this for everyone.
for the sake of argument, lets say you have 2 identically setup dusters that you want to SELL. both have 340's and so on. but one is an original H code 340 numbers matching blah blah blah and the other is a 340 tribute car originally a /6.

how much are you going to ask for each car, remember they look identical.

I would like everyone privy to this thread to respond, ANSWER IN DOLLAR AMOUNTS, no story lines or intellectual philosophy.
 
thats not really solving anything..

if identical in shape the H code will always be worth more. that being said the original slant/318 car will be worth more then it would be all original..
 
thats not really solving anything..

if identical in shape the H code will always be worth more. that being said the original slant/318 car will be worth more then it would be all original..

Well of course the original one is worth more than the tribute one imo.

But would an original 1973 /6 car be worth more than a 1973 car that used to be a slant turned into a 360 with an 8 3/4 sg rear?

Maybe its different for more sought after high dollar cars but I made the decision to just go for what I want to drive and the slant was dangerously slow and had trouble climbing long hills while maintaining speed.

I fully admit that I may be biased by this having been a family car since it was new and I have zero intentions of ever selling it but if i could inly buy one car and did a search I woukd take the 360 over an original slant any day.
 
I say no because you will always have people who will turn down and slant 6 or 318 car just because it's a slant 6 or 318. A 340 car weither it is original or not will always bring more money than a numbers matching slant 6 car giving that the cars are in relatively similar conditions!
 
But would an original 1973 /6 car be worth more than a 1973 car that used to be a slant turned into a 360 with an 8 3/4 sg rear?

like i clearly stated earlier in the thread a couple of times. no the slant one would not be worth more then a slant or 318 car with a 340/360 and associated equipment to do it right to the majority of people out there looking. to a very small minority maybe...
 
There are a LOT of potential variables involved.

Obviously an unrestored /6 four speed car, otherwise loaded and in #2 condition in HIP paint will be worth more than a green/green, driver 318 auto car needing a fair amount of work.

All things equal (same condition, same options, comparable colors) the 318 car is worth more.

Take both the cars from example 2, and install a 340, and the difference becomes less, although most, myself included would likely still value the factory v8 car a bit higher.
 
yea we are talking hypothetical here.... exact same cars (make/model) ,colors,condition. only difference is engine it was born with..
 
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