1965 dodge dart gt disc brake kit

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frank mccoach

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could anyone suggest the best kit to convert my dart to disc brakes I have 10inch drum now with 14 cragars I want to swap the brake booster at same time but would prefer to buy a complete kit thanx for any help
 
scarebird uses 10" spindles (and 9 IIRC) ....complete kit if your not after Mopar quality. They also use a 1 piston floating caliper, inferior to the KH 4 piston caliper but it is mostly new parts. Dont know if the Celebrity loaded calipers are rebuilt or Repops themselves.
 
I'm not a fan of multi piston calipers. If 1 piston sticks you have a dragging brake pad. You may not know there's a problem till it grinds into the rotor. If you have a single piston caliper and it seizes, you have a drag and a pull. You know right away that there's an issue. Nothing wrong with single piston calipers.
 
Much cheaper with single pistones too.
Generally less fluid to displace means less pedal travel.
 
I'm not a fan of multi piston calipers. If 1 piston sticks you have a dragging brake pad. You may not know there's a problem till it grinds into the rotor. If you have a single piston caliper and it seizes, you have a drag and a pull. You know right away that there's an issue. Nothing wrong with single piston calipers.
Ill agree to disagree on this: You have a seized or hanging piston in a 4 piston, youll know. You will get a pull just by allowing the car to coast with no steering input, and especially when you apply the brake in the same mode...it'll pull. As for allowing it to damage the rotor, they have tattle tale tabs...There is nothing wrong with a single piston caliper, but the 4 piston provides better modulation, possibly more uniform pad life, and less maintenance at the cost of being more expensive to produce. Kind of like the shaft rockers to the stamped: They both do the job on a hydro, but one is far cheaper to produce with a minimum impact on performance, no brainer in the "nickle a unit" cost aspect. Either are 10X better than drums on the front. Both systems call out the same rotor runout .0025, but I believe the 4 piston actually has less drag potential as both sides recess .005 inches, while the unknown single piston design will probably recess the same amount but over both sides, so it will ride .0025 off the disc. As for more pedal travel for a 4 piston (.005 x 2 clearance), they may have a larger MC bore to begin with to negate that. Choose what you like.
 
Ill agree to disagree on this: You have a seized or hanging piston in a 4 piston, youll know. You will get a pull just by allowing the car to coast with no steering input, and especially when you apply the brake in the same mode...it'll pull. As for allowing it to damage the rotor, they have tattle tale tabs...There is nothing wrong with a single piston caliper, but the 4 piston provides better modulation, possibly more uniform pad life, and less maintenance at the cost of being more expensive to produce. Kind of like the shaft rockers to the stamped: They both do the job on a hydro, but one is far cheaper to produce with a minimum impact on performance, no brainer in the "nickle a unit" cost aspect. Either are 10X better than drums on the front. Both systems call out the same rotor runout .0025, but I believe the 4 piston actually has less drag potential as both sides recess .005 inches, while the unknown single piston design will probably recess the same amount but over both sides, so it will ride .0025 off the disc. As for more pedal travel for a 4 piston (.005 x 2 clearance), they may have a larger MC bore to begin with to negate that. Choose what you like.
I have had both on trucks for 28 years and like the single piston calipers for the reasons I stated above. Both work and the multi-piston calipers work a bit better while taking up a smaller space and requiring a smaller diameter wheel. My way of thinking: what causes most calipers to fail? Seized pistons! Single piston, only one. 4 piston, 4 different pistons to seize. If I have a choice, I'll take the single piston. Just my opinion.
 
If price is not an object, look at Wilwood, but be ready for $750. Also, you are dependent on them for future parts. There are even more expensive setups (SSBC, ...). Personally, I would go w/ Scarebird, but insure your 14" Cragars will clear the calipers.
 
Put Pirate Jack set up on my 65 dart vert project.Front and rear.
My classic centerline rims clear
Calipers.
Affordable.
Google it...


Dave
 
I like the SSBC kit as it is very complete (master cyl, rotors, pads, front brake lines new bearings, adj prop valve) and you have the option to go 4" or at a later date you can switch to the 4.5 pattern and it comes with 2 sets of studs. Yes it has multi piston but does clear 14" wheels. This kit works with the 10" drum spindle.
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Have had cars with KH and 73 up single pistons calipers, KH dont seem to have as
much braking power even when everything is up to snuff, KH seem very prone
to sticking (had issues even with stainless steel pistons and DOT 5 fluid!) Also
KH rotors have less mass (good or bad?) you decide but it contributes to braking
power.
 
FYI.
If going with discs brakes in the back it's all about the emergency brake adjustment to get things to work right I found that out the hard way.

I guess more so with manual trans.
 
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