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I know this has been asked and answered too many times, but
can someone please tell me where to connect the distributor vacuum line to!
74 318, dodge
I have a vacuum line diagram, but for some reason the distributor line is not shown

Thanks
 
if it has vacuum at idle its manifold vacuum. If it only has vacuum while opening the throttle is ported. you want it hooked to ported.
 
Is that a LeanBurn? With a big ugly black box hanging off the air filter housing? With a big fat bundle of wires going in one end? And a funky shiny flying saucer-shaped thingy on the other end? With a hose or hose nipple on it?
 
I know this has been asked and answered too many times, but
can someone please tell me where to connect the distributor vacuum line to!
74 318, dodge
I have a vacuum line diagram, but for some reason the distributor line is not shown

Thanks
In general, ported (aka timed), but sometimes with various emissions setups the distributor hooks to device that in turn connects to vacuum sources.
Post of the diagram you have.
Also more info. makes this easier.
Is it a California car? manual or automatic? Is it all original? Dart or something else?
Photos of the engine bay can't hurt either.

Lean burn is much later.
 
I used to wonder why there wasn't more agreement on which is best. Much conflicting advice.

I think that with higher compression motors you want it on ported, but many times a low compression motor will respond really well connected to manifold vacuum. I've been running a 8.5 compression 340 and have experimented a lot, and definitely think the motor does better on manifold.

I think this is because with lower the compression and at lower rpm's the motor wants more advance so there's more time to burn the fuel, and the manifold vacuum helps with this, whereas hooked to ported the vacuum drops off at idle.
 
thanks for the input... I am really looking for
the Factory location of the vacuum connection.
It is a California car.. No black box anywhere
automatic, air, power brakes
It could the vacuum is taken off the small conister on the passenger side of the
air cleaner?
Thanks
Best
 
I'm going to guess the car had at least 3 vacuum operated systems.
Chrysler may not have placed all of them on the same diagram.
The underhood diagram would have the emissions related system(s).

EGR:
According to the diagram posted in that other thread, Calf car may have had this venturi controlled EGR system.
Reposted here with some colorization.
None of these components are tied into the distributor vacuum.
The venturi vacuum port on the carb is probably located higher than the distributor port.
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Distributor Vacuum Advance:
Without any additional information my guess is the distributor vacuum advance connected to a 'timed port' on the carburator. It may have OSAC - see next post.
Another possibility is a connection to a coolant temperature control valve. If so, the temperature control valve would then have one line getting ported vacuum from the carb and another line getting manifold vacuum. The purpose of these is to switch from ported to manifold vacuum if coolant temperature exceeds something like 210 or 220*F.

Power Brake Booster:
That should be a big hose from a manifold vacuum source. On a stock 318 my guess is the connection is direct.

PCV:
PCV Valve direct to manifold vacuum source, usually on the carburetor base. Big hose.

Others Maybe:
Air Cleaner controls - if the aircleaner has flaps inside the snorkel, then there will be a vacuum hoses to open the flaps. One snorkel valve is closed when the engine is off to keep fuel vapors from escaping. Another snorkel valve is to mix in warm air. Doubt that was used in '74.
 
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Lacking other info, get a copy of the owners manual and the Dodge or Plymouth 1974 factory service manuals.
That diagram above indicates 73 and 74 have the same EGR system. I don't trust multi-year Haynes or similar books for stuff like this.

There's three MTSC's in '73 and '74 worth looking at since they have pictures and explanations. That should help you figure out which ones are on your car.
1973 Chrysler Cleaner Air System Highlights, Master Technician Service Conference (Session 302)
1974 Chrysler Cleaner Air System Movie, Master Technician Service Conference (Session 317)
1974 Chrysler Single Venturi Carburetors Movie, Master Technician Service Conference (Session 322)

For example in '73 they show the venturi controlled EGR on this page, 1973 Venturi Controlled EGR (p.9 Session 302)
Diagram is a little different, and just as important, there are also photos.

OSAC
I know these were used on slant six cars in 74 or 75 because I had one. Your Calf 318 I dont know.
1973 Orifice Spark Control System (p. 11 from Session 302)
The delay can cause a lag in throttle response. :(
In any event, it shows ported vacuum as the source, and mentions the possibility of a temperature controlled valve that also connects to manifold vacuum.
The only differences you'll notice between choosing ported or manifold vacuum for distributor will be at idle, and a just above idle. Using manifold may help bring coolant temperatures down idling in hot traffic. It may also cause the engine to run at higher idle rpm.
 
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Thanks for that info.. I know there is another person
looking for a vacuum diagram for the 74 318, it is
funny that I found a diagram for a 73 and 75, why
is it that we can never find info on the car we have!!
hahaha
So been up since 3:30 AM and while searching I
found a diagram... for a Cal car, although it is
still a little confusing I think it gives me a good
start.. Not to take away from all you who have
given advice.
I know the history of the car, and I had loaned it
to my niece to go to High school in, but don't understand why some of the hoses were disconnected.
Even though the car is not smoged in Cal
I'd like it to be wired correctly and have the
vacuum lines in place for when I sell it..
Need to get it over to the muffler shop for
new exhaust.. and replace the cracked windshield.
cracked while sitting in my garage, go figure...
I'm watching "My classic Cars" right now,
Jay Leno.. Always liked him, he is a real car guy
Nice to have the money!!!!
Well thanks again to all of you... helped a lot.
get this 74 back on the road.
BTW I had bought some "chromed" wheels about
3 years ago.. already rusted, thought they were
from "US Wheels" think I got took on EBay.
but the valve stems were cracked bad
so I bought a tool that lets you install new stems
from outside the wheel... did it yesterday..
worked great... and saved me some $$
bought new valve stems made in USA...
Best
 
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