Stop in for a cup of coffee

:lol: I knew you'd be one up on me but.............Red Oaks usually hold onto their leaves until the new buds sprout in the spring. That's why I don't like them. Usually you have a hard time growing grass under them as well. I think lack of tap roots is the problem.
Yep, this one holds it’s leaves all winter. They actually do quite well around here. They seem to like the rocky soil.