Engine decking issue(help)
All the new Rottler's are CNC. They do not sell manual machines anymore and that is what my son wanted , A manual machine. Software is expensive for the CNC's. Also Mill port was bought out by another company. When they closed the doors they sold out the remaining machines which were blue. They are now red. If you all remember we went to look at a 20 year old used broken machine in NJ. for $10k. The table was to close to the spindle and it needed alot of repairs.
My son saw our machine for sale with 6 others by a clearance co. out of buffalo NY. They listed them on Ebay with a typo. They price listed was suppose to be $135,000 for 6 of them, Some were incomplete. They had them listed for $13,500. missing one zero. My son jumped on it and pushed the buy it now.
When we got there we took cash thinking we bought one . I had the reciept with the down payment paid for the "buy it now" for the machines. They do not have cash at the warehouse for returns. Because of there mistake we got the only complete machine for $12.500. The next week they corrected the add. One of the reasons we got the deal is my son also bought a 24 " rotary table for $500. that machine was rusted fast so they owed us for the Table. It weighs over 400 lbs. They also had to pay shipping twice. Our return and the original cost.
You all think we are rich we're not . He bought the machine cheap and knows how to use it after running one for 10 years at a race shop. The shops in our area are not happy. Customers have been finding him through word of mouth from that shop.
So those of you that have negatives to say about him are cutting off your nose to spite your face. We live in a double wide mobile home and work out of a three car garage with more equipment than most shops in the area. Here is the machine where we picked it up. there were others in truck bodies. This machine was the only one hooked up to test and it was closest to the Door. We were there on a Saturday afternoon and the employee there just wanted to get us loaded and out of there so he could go home. $12,500 for a perfect machine now selling for over $150,000 for a CNC. And will never be available in the manual version again. I saw they sold the last one in pieces as a parts machine for $20k. Here it is at the ware house.
We left there with one perfect new machine still on the pallet and wrapped . The rusted table is setting on the tool box they said keep it. My son just went out there for a Patterson power hone. He now knows the owner of the company and has her personal phone number.
I thought you all would be happy that there is someone on the site with these skills and equipment. Don't let jealousy stand in the way of progress that could be at your benefit. One thing I could tell you he is living life to the fullest. He was able to buy this machine that he never thought he could afford. Condemn him all you want. Young guns and technology are taking over. Us old guys are living in the past.
I am sure older methods on older machines work just fine. But the process is the same just a different set up. Square decking is square decking no matter what the age of the machine. Rottler is not the only bed mill out there. Ours is a "Port Mill" The company that designed the engine block specific "Rottler". The only difference is the name and our machine has more options not needed for block work.
All the new Rottler's are CNC. They do not sell manual machines anymore and that is what my son wanted , A manual machine. Software is expensive for the CNC's. Also Mill port was bought out by another company. When they closed the doors they sold out the remaining machines which were blue. They are now red. If you all remember we went to look at a 20 year old used broken machine in NJ. for $10k. The table was to close to the spindle and it needed alot of repairs.
My son saw our machine for sale with 6 others by a clearance co. out of buffalo NY. They listed them on Ebay with a typo. They price listed was suppose to be $135,000 for 6 of them, Some were incomplete. They had them listed for $13,500. missing one zero. My son jumped on it and pushed the buy it now.
When we got there we took cash thinking we bought one . I had the reciept with the down payment paid for the "buy it now" for the machines. They do not have cash at the warehouse for returns. Because of there mistake we got the only complete machine for $12.500. The next week they corrected the add. One of the reasons we got the deal is my son also bought a 24 " rotary table for $500. that machine was rusted fast so they owed us for the Table. It weighs over 400 lbs. They also had to pay shipping twice. Our return and the original cost.
You all think we are rich we're not . He bought the machine cheap and knows how to use it after running one for 10 years at a race shop. The shops in our area are not happy. Customers have been finding him through word of mouth from that shop.
So those of you that have negatives to say about him are cutting off your nose to spite your face. We live in a double wide mobile home and work out of a three car garage with more equipment than most shops in the area. Here is the machine where we picked it up. there were others in truck bodies. This machine was the only one hooked up to test and it was closest to the Door. We were there on a Saturday afternoon and the employee there just wanted to get us loaded and out of there so he could go home. $12,500 for a perfect machine now selling for over $150,000 for a CNC. And will never be available in the manual version again. I saw they sold the last one in pieces as a parts machine for $20k. Here it is at the ware house.
We left there with one perfect new machine still on the pallet and wrapped . The rusted table is setting on the tool box they said keep it. My son just went out there for a Patterson power hone. He now knows the owner of the company and has her personal phone number.
I thought you all would be happy that there is someone on the site with these skills and equipment. Don't let jealousy stand in the way of progress that could be at your benefit. One thing I could tell you he is living life to the fullest. He was able to buy this machine that he never thought he could afford. Condemn him all you want. Young guns and technology are taking over. Us old guys are living in the past.
