Slacker's Guide to Fixing Up the 68 Notch

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I was going to lay out the bucks for one of them expensive manuals for my car but have decided to just wait until you're done posting the work on your car instead. Great work!!

Thanks John, hopefully it will help me from repeating my stupid mistakes when I start the other side! So far my methodology for determing the best route to take on a particular Cuda job is to look at the manual, do a few searches on FABO, and if I really want to be entertained is to look at a You-tube video with some guy in a wife beater tshirt and a butt crack showing how he disaasembles a Mopar while trying to hold the camera in one hand and a tool in the other. Hmmm, maybe thats why I never get anything done on the car.
 
LOL, Id bet all my $$ that a guy was the one that developed tubetops! LOL
I ordered the LCA stiffener plates from PST and referenced the video by Jim Lusk( member here)

 
Well I am back for awhile. I have been dinking around with the car here and there throughout the spring but don't have much to show for it. I aim to catch up with my documentation of the suspension dismantling with the next few posts.


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Yep this is not the Barracuda. I got sidetracked on a small project for my 1963 Starcraft 12 foot aluminum fishing boat. It had a few small leaks in the bow that have been bugging me so I worked on waterproofing all the rivets with a product called Gluvit, a specialized epoxy for boats. After that I noticed the wood seats needed refinishing, then remembered I needed to install new wheel bearings in the boat trailer, and then I remembered I better go fishing to test if I stopped the leak..... Well it did stop the leak and I caught a few rainbows.




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And then hell arrived in Phoenix! This was the temp in my garage yesterday afternoon. It actually got up to 119 outside at my house this week. Anybody remember the song "Summer in the City" by the Lovin Spooful? It's lyrics start out as "hot town, summer in the city
back of my neck getting dirty and gritty". Well after about 3 minutes spent in my garage my neck and few other parts of my anatomy get dirty and gritty alright. I am used to Arizona's heat, but I wouldn't complain if it was a bit lower than 110 while I am wrenching on the Cuda.


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Continuing on with documenting the dismantling of the front suspension my next job was removing the upper control arm which is simply removing two bolts and nuts and pulling it off. They require a 3/4 inch socket or wrench. I marked the eccentric washer and frame with some white paint to help me get it close to original alignment during reassembly.

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Here is a close up of how I marked the eccentric washer and frame. I plan to use the Moog offset bushings so this marking may not be of much use. After I removed the bolts I also marked them as "front" or "rear" with a grease pencil.

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Once the control arm was off the car I removed the two bushings using my American Muscle kit tool. The tool worked great and the bushings came out easily. During the removal I thought the metal cylinder shown inside the red circle in the pic was actually just part of the rear arm but it was not.


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Turns out it was is a separate piece (I am just holding it next to the rear arm hole). After doing a little research on FABO and in my service manual it is termed a "support sleeve" that is occasionally found on various Mopar vehicles and has dubious benefit. Some guys on FABO have not reinstalled them and have not seen any difference in handling etc. My factory service manual indicates it was found on heavy service vehicles such as taxis and police cars, but that is obviously not the case with mine. Guess I am just special.


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After removing the bushings I just attached the bolts, nuts, and the "support sleeve" to keep from losing track of the parts and threw it up on a garage shelf for future work.

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This week I pulled the control arm off my garage shelf and here you see the results with a degreaser and wire brush plus a soak in Evaporust. I didn't clean the bolts yet because I did not want to lose my paint marks. I need to get some sort of scribe tool or similar to make a more permanent mark. If anyone has a good tool for scribing marks please let know.
 
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Scott, it's about time. I thought that thing went back into hibernation. Glad you back at it. I need to get back at mine too.
 
Glad to see you got out fishing Scott. There is nothing quite like it.
Now that Lori and I have grandbabies we need another one.
For a scribe I just use an oring pick. Nuttin fancy
 
I thought I would start out this round of posts discussing a new handy tool I bought not too long ago at Home Depot. I consider this my post teaser to get you sucked in to reading the rest of my boring spiel about removing parts from my car! Anyway.... I was over there on a weekend and saw these Makita cordless blowers on their clearance shelf for $39, (they normally sell for $99). As a sucker for tools and a perceived deal I bought 3 of them, one for me, my son, and son-in-law. We all have other Makita cordless tools with the same 18 volt battery so no need to buy batteries.

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I get them home, and pulled one out of the box and powered it up with one of my batteries to see how it worked. Well, it blew but not with much force. I tried the other two and the same deal, they just didn't blow too hard. I checked other batteries, but still the same wimpy results. So I was really disappointed, figured it must be why Home Depot had them in the clearance section. But... as I was starting to box them up to take them back I noticed a little obscure dial on the handle (see pic inside red circle) that had number 1 on it. Hmmm, looked a little closer and discovered it had 3 speeds, and they were all set on the lowest! Doh! Well I moved it up to speed 2 and 3, and these little Makita's really get it done, blowing very strongly. Now this thing is about my favorite tool - I am constantly using it to blow out my garage and even dry off parts that I have been cleaning so I don't have to fire up my air compressor. So if you have some father's day gift card burning a hole in your pocket, I would highly recommend. I see that Dewalt makes a very similar model.


My next suspension dismantling project was to completely remove the lower control arm from the vehicle. In previous posts I had showed how I removed the ball joint and spindle, now I needed to get the strut rod and the control arm shaft freed from the K member to fully free it from the car.

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This shows how the strut rod is connected to the LCA and K member.


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To remove the strut from the K member I needed to punch the roll pin out and then took a 1" long socket and my breaker bar to break loose the nut, then took a ratchet to speed the final removal. There is a curved washer and bushing on both sides of the K frame where the strut passes.


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Close-up of the strut after nut and washer removed showing the rubber bushing. The second half of this bushing is on the other side of the K frame out of view. The bushings came off easily by pulling with my fingers.


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Next I removed the nut from the lower control arm shaft where it goes through the K frame. It is a 15/16" nut that came off without problem.


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With the strut and lower control arm shaft nuts removed, I used my deadblow hammer to persuade the LCA out of the K member.

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After just a few whacks and it slipped out easily.


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And the LCA is off the car!


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Next I removed the nut holding the other end of the strut into the LCA. My old Workmate bench is pretty useful for holding parts.


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Strut rod is out - you can see the 2 part bushing pretty well here. I am sure it is original from 1968.


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Now I needed to pull the LCA shaft and I assembled my pulling tool. The lower bolt adapter screws on the threaded portion of the shaft and through the pipe for the pull.


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A few cranks on the socket wrench and the shaft easily pulled out of the rubber LCA bushing, probably because the rubber was so dry - pretty sure it was the original 1968 factory bushing. I was surprised to find the rubber bump stop on top of the LCA (that you can see upper left in this pic) was in remarkable shape without any dry rot or cracks plus it still felt very pliable. Pretty sure it is 1968 original too. Must have been made from a very healthy rubber tree!


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And the LCA shaft is liberated! Well almost, still need to remove the pull tool from it.

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Once the shaft was pulled out, I grabbed a screwdriver and dug the rubber out of the LCA bushing shell. It came out very easily. The shell still remains and I will need to remove that too. I was considering using poly bushings where I would not need to pull the shell out, but I decided to go with the original style rubber bushing with the metal shell, so this needs to come out.

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To remove the shell I purchased another American Muscle tool that did not come in the main kit. They did give me a little deal on it since I had already purchased the kit. In the pic it is on the upper left. It is basically a couple of wedges you place in the shell with a bolt that pulls the wedges up and against the shell, and eventually out. You use the pipe and rod from the LCA shaft puller with these wedges.


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You drop these two wedges in the shell hole.


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Then you run this bolt up through the wedges.

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Then you attach the rod and pipe and nut for the pull. I ended up putting it in my vise as I needed a little more leverage than the Workmate afforded. It took a little effort and re-positioning several times to get it to start pulling straight, but it finally pulled the shell out.
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You can see the shell sitting on the LCA after I removed it from the puller. The surface inside the LCA where the shell just came out of is a little rough inside. I will probably try to smooth it slightly with some fine emory cloth. I don't think the roughness is a big deal as the new bushing should press in OK.

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Here are my two LCA's cleaned up and ready for a new bushing, some paint, and installation someday. The driver's side LCA is one I bought from a FABO member a couple of years ago. My Cuda came with one LCA that had a swaybar tab (passenger side) and one that did not (drivers side). This car should not have had any swaybar tabs since it was not optioned with a swaybar. I find this kind of interesting how the factory back in those days were not all that particular - they used what they had at the time or maybe it was just a Monday morning mistake where the factory worker picked up the wrong LCA. Anyway I bought this drivers side LCA that had a swaybar tab as I plan to install a Hellwig swaybar that I purchased many years ago.
 
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Scott, it's about time. I thought that thing went back into hibernation. Glad you back at it. I need to get back at mine too.

Lol, hibernation is probably not too far from the truth although I have been "dinking!".


Glad to see you got out fishing Scott. There is nothing quite like it.
Now that Lori and I have grandbabies we need another one.
For a scribe I just use an oring pick. Nuttin fancy

Got several grandkids myself, and I did take them out for a voyage. Thanks for the tip pick.

By the way guys, I think this will be my 500th post. Is there a FABO ceremony or anything? Graduation? Free shirt? An attaboy?
 
I think I will title this post "Better keep my day job!" Last Wednesday I took a 2 hour training session from a local welder who has his own metal fab shop. He has done some work for me in the past and does a really nice job and is pretty reasonable. But... I always wanted to learn to weld and I always regret not taking the welding class in high school.


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So after some basic lecture and do's and don't he just had me run some welds along the top. Pretty ugly I know! He pointed out that I was a little nervous and trying to hold my breath too much while welding - he compared it to shooting a rifle and how breaths affect your pulling the trigger and aim.

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A little better, maybe.

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Could be worse?

My biggest problem I think is my ability to see what I am doing. My eyes and eyeglasses are part of the issue, and maybe the helmet he had me use was the other. My eyeglasses have progressive lenses and with the small window in the welding helmet I had trouble trying to put my head at the right angle to focus on the weld and just could not see the weld area very good.

I think I would do better if I just had some prescription reading only glasses with maybe a higher magnification. The helmet I had was not auto darkening and had a real small window. He told me it was about a 11 darkness, so I am not sure if that was a problem, but that is what he uses.

So I am not sure if I will go any further in my welding career. I do want to get some plates welded on my LCA's and also plan to take off my K-member and possibly weld up those if needed. Right now if I did those it would look like some slacker hack job!

If I see a smoking deal on Craigslist I may pick up a used welder but I am thinking I now need a new tool chest worse than a welder. I don't have a 220 outlet in my garage, so I would have to get one installed unless I went with a 110 volt unit, which my welder told me to generally stay away from.
 
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A gentle nudge; any progress on your car?

Thanks 440jimr, I do need some nudging, but probably not gentle! I know you are not going to believe this but surprisingly little has been accomplished lol! I have several reasonable real excuses plus a few more that I could make up that sound better than the real ones! But two weeks ago I did get some stiffening plates welded on my LCA's so I haven't been totally slacking. Couple pictures below - I wish I could weld like this, but if you look at my welding training shots in the previous posts you can see why I had this done.

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Next on the list is to finish some front end disassembling and then pull my K frame for some cleaning and possibly some strengthening. I may try some welding myself on the Kframe, but the jury is still deliberating on that.
 
Thanks for the update! Keep practicing and I'm sure you will be able to lay down beads as good as those on the control arms!
 
Subscribed. Top quality Work and thanks for the time you take to share all the pics and info... very much appreciated. Our projects are very similar, and at a similar stage. You are giving me the inspiration to dig deeper, which has already been nagging at me, now that I’m nearly done with the brakes. In my mind I know I need to dig into the steering/suspension and rebuild it all as well... but that deceitful urge to “get it running” can often take over. It’s much smarter to slow down and dig a little deeper into the car. For the last couple of weeks I’ve known what I need to do, and your suspension tear-down has helped sway me, so thanks! And good luck getting on the project when you get rolling again!
 
Subscribed. Top quality Work and thanks for the time you take to share all the pics and info... very much appreciated. Our projects are very similar, and at a similar stage. You are giving me the inspiration to dig deeper, which has already been nagging at me, now that I’m nearly done with the brakes. In my mind I know I need to dig into the steering/suspension and rebuild it all as well... but that deceitful urge to “get it running” can often take over. It’s much smarter to slow down and dig a little deeper into the car. For the last couple of weeks I’ve known what I need to do, and your suspension tear-down has helped sway me, so thanks! And good luck getting on the project when you get rolling again!

Thanks JAndrea! I have fallen off the wagon a bit with some family and other committments but every time I walk in the garage it keeps calling me! Now thats its a 100 degreees out there I can work on my car in a dry sauna at no extra costs! Glad to see the progress you are making, and I think the “get it running” is a good strategy, you can always catch up on the front end later if it is not in terrible shape. The dry Arizona heat pretty much toasted all the rubber in my front end components so it made that choice for me. Like that you are putting a 383 in your car, seems like a forgotten engine these days.
 
Well Scott, "when" has arrived for me and my KH setup. I glossed over your last page and will reference/check in to apply AND receive motivation.
Pistons are stuck in caliper bores and was wondering why you didn't separate the caliper halves earlier on in the rebuild?
Just curious...
Keep up the great work!
What's next?:poke:
Ahem.... Steve you and I need to discuss this word called "when" that you have been incorporating into your conversations lately. As a slacker it is a comfort word but I do however prefer to use the word "soon." It provides the appearance of imminent work without strict time commitment.
 
Well Scott, "when" has arrived for me and my KH setup. I glossed over your last page and will reference/check in to apply AND receive motivation.
Pistons are stuck in caliper bores and was wondering why you didn't separate the caliper halves earlier on in the rebuild?
Just curious...
Keep up the great work!
What's next?:poke:

Hey Steve! I believe if you split the calipers before removing the pistons, and you use an air or grease pressure removal method, you would have to put a plug in the crossover hole on the one side to be able to hold pressure to remove the pistons. The other side would not make a difference since the fluid path dead ends there. Other than that splitting them certainly made things easier for most everything else. If they are really really stuck, I do like the thought of the poster who said he tapped and threaded the pistons, and basically mechanically force them out. Certainly would have to split the calipers to do that.

Yeah, I need to get to work on the car. Been training not so hard for an upcoming reality show called "The Real Slackers of FABO", could be on this fall...
 
Keep welding Scott. It takes practice and do it constantly & do it as often as you can. This skill is developed over time and practice.

Your welds look really good for a new guys first time.



I think I will title this post "Better keep my day job!" Last Wednesday I took a 2 hour training session from a local welder who has his own metal fab shop. He has done some work for me in the past and does a really nice job and is pretty reasonable. But... I always wanted to learn to weld and I always regret not taking the welding class in high school.


View attachment 1715060890 So after some basic lecture and do's and don't he just had me run some welds along the top. Pretty ugly I know! He pointed out that I was a little nervous and trying to hold my breath too much while welding - he compared it to shooting a rifle and how breaths affect your pulling the trigger and aim.

View attachment 1715060891 A little better, maybe.

View attachment 1715060892 Could be worse?

My biggest problem I think is my ability to see what I am doing. My eyes and eyeglasses are part of the issue, and maybe the helmet he had me use was the other. My eyeglasses have progressive lenses and with the small window in the welding helmet I had trouble trying to put my head at the right angle to focus on the weld and just could not see the weld area very good.

I think I would do better if I just had some prescription reading only glasses with maybe a higher magnification. The helmet I had was not auto darkening and had a real small window. He told me it was about a 11 darkness, so I am not sure if that was a problem, but that is what he uses.

So I am not sure if I will go any further in my welding career. I do want to get some plates welded on my LCA's and also plan to take off my K-member and possibly weld up those if needed. Right now if I did those it would look like some slacker hack job!

If I see a smoking deal on Craigslist I may pick up a used welder but I am thinking I now need a new tool chest worse than a welder. I don't have a 220 outlet in my garage, so I would have to get one installed unless I went with a 110 volt unit, which my welder told me to generally stay away from.
 
Please, I am trying to maintain my recommended daily allowance of slack hours! Those FABO alerts that came up in the corner of the web page are just the type of thing that could ruin my ability to slack! Thanks for the jab guys, probably need a little push to get going on the car again.

Scott
 
There is a well defined line between slacking and procrastinating. In order to slack you have to have something to compare it to, procrastinating is waiting too long to get started again, see? Your are getting dangerously close to procrastinating and may get your slackers card put on probation, when we get around to it!
 
That car has a clean body, good luck with your build.
 
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