no way in hell these were going in in two different ways with the stock arms on this car. no bump stops, just metal on metal, arm on top of bump stop bracket. might work fine with tubular control arms but not with my stockers. and just to be clear, i'm not complaining about PST's bars, just showing how they fit in this car. i'll be tearing the front end apart another time to change the arms, box the lowers and do some other stuff, so this is temp anyway