Yea I read somewhere that they were getting close to 2500 with a 55g factory round out of a 10 inch and close to 2200 out of a 7 inch with much ammo. Not to bad imo. I haven't decided yet but I'm kinda leaning towards the 10 in a 223 wylde with a carbine gas system so I can run a mil spec 3 ounce buffer.