1965 Dodge Dart 270 defroster vent color.

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Am I right to assume that the defroster vent on a 1965 Dodge Dart 270 is supposed to be the same color as the dash around where they are mounted ?
I found some information that the recess in the upper dash panel is supposed to be painted in suede finish color, does this in 2019 English mean flat ?

I struggle with the interior colors as I can only find the paint code JJ1 K for the entire car, and the JJ1 is the exterior color, and the K is the interior color, but there is more than one color inside, so that is a bit of a headache.


Bill
 
Am I right to assume that the defroster vent on a 1965 Dodge Dart 270 is supposed to be the same color as the dash around where they are mounted ?
I found some information that the recess in the upper dash panel is supposed to be painted in suede finish color, does this in 2019 English mean flat ?

I struggle with the interior colors as I can only find the paint code JJ1 K for the entire car, and the JJ1 is the exterior color, and the K is the interior color, but there is more than one color inside, so that is a bit of a headache.


Bill
Se

Where do you live Bill?
 
I live in Santa Rosa, northern California. (Originally from Senja, northern part of Norway) (and spent a few years in Övertorneå, Norrbotten, Sweden.)
Hamn i Senja is probably one of the nicest place I ever been too. I was there a couple of years ago and the Atlantic ocean was like a mirror!

Re the paint I used the same paint all over the instrument panel. Then I masked off the upper area and painted it with flat clear coat. Turned out great.
 
This should help:

Paint Chips 1966 Chrysler Plymouth

I think the interior colors have the paint codes.

Suede is not flat.

According to this link: Paint Chips 1965 Dodge my car is painted DD1 outside. Instead of the JJ1.

The K code for interior looks like here: http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorco...r=1965&smanuf=Chrysler&sname=Medium Turquoise

The lower dashboard and some other interior parts looks like the K code, Medium Turquoise. The lower dash I would say is some kind of semi gloss or whatever. Not at all glossy.

The steering wheel and column, and the armrest bases looks more like this and is glossy : http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorco...ar=1965&smanuf=Chrysler&sname=Light Turquoise
 
Hamn i Senja is probably one of the nicest place I ever been too. I was there a couple of years ago and the Atlantic ocean was like a mirror!

Re the paint I used the same paint all over the instrument panel. Then I masked off the upper area and painted it with flat clear coat. Turned out great.

Grew up 5 km (3 miles) further west from Hamn. That is what I still consider home, like home-home. :)
 
I’m not too familiar with ‘65 & Dart, but the ‘66 Valiants also use light blue & light turquoise interior colors. The ‘66 Valiant light turquoise has a dash the same color while the light blue has a dark blue dash pad and dash surface. This may be in the service manual.
 
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This is the light turquoise

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This is light blue in this thread:

1966 Valiant Signet Convertible Resto

Here’s a pic; notice on the light blue all of the dash is dark blue (not black) while In the car with a light turquoise the dash is the same color as the rest of the interior - kinda confusing.

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Hamn i Senja is probably one of the nicest place I ever been too. I was there a couple of years ago and the Atlantic ocean was like a mirror!

Re the paint I used the same paint all over the instrument panel. Then I masked off the upper area and painted it with flat clear coat. Turned out great.

Sounds like something I could accomplish too, that with a flat clear coat. Ulf, are you familiar with the Suede paint ? I mean, the Suede comes from the French way of spelling Swede.

Bill
 
Se

Where do you live Bill?

Ulf, interesting that you found the yellow Charger Hardtop in my neighbor county, Marin. I live in Sonoma County, which borders Novato. And then that we once have met in real life in Norway. I have a vague recollection of a phone call, but it is very far back there in my head. If it was in 1989, I had my green '71 Torino (that we will not talk about, not going to swear in church), and the Dart was sitting in my parents garage. Do you remember if you saw my Dart ?
Oh man you have a good memory, even remember my name too. That is impressive, I am hopeless with names and faces, but I am good with birthdays, point's gaps, idle rpm, and so forth. :)

Bill
 
Now that I’m at home here is a pic from the recently published ‘66 Body & Electrical assembly manual.
Which shows the upper portion having a different finish; suede flat metallic. Not sure if ‘65 is similar.

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Also the paint code reference has this info at the bottom of pages with interior colors

Paint Chips 1966 Chrysler Plymouth
 
Ulf, interesting that you found the yellow Charger Hardtop in my neighbor county, Marin. I live in Sonoma County, which borders Novato. And then that we once have met in real life in Norway. I have a vague recollection of a phone call, but it is very far back there in my head. If it was in 1989, I had my green '71 Torino (that we will not talk about, not going to swear in church), and the Dart was sitting in my parents garage. Do you remember if you saw my Dart ?
Oh man you have a good memory, even remember my name too. That is impressive, I am hopeless with names and faces, but I am good with birthdays, point's gaps, idle rpm, and so forth. :)

Yes, I bought the first one in Novato from a guy Jon Gerard and it was sold new in Palo Alto. The guy who sold me the convertible lived just outside Novato. That car was sold by Wegge Motor in Pasadena. He was a uncle or so to Jon. Have tried to get hold of them nut no luck.
I saw your car. I sent pictures in a PM. You can publish them if you like. I took them in your garage in 1989, 30 years ago! Cool!
 
Am I right to assume that the defroster vent on a 1965 Dodge Dart 270 is supposed to be the same color as the dash around where they are mounted ?
I found some information that the recess in the upper dash panel is supposed to be painted in suede finish color, does this in 2019 English mean flat ?

I struggle with the interior colors as I can only find the paint code JJ1 K for the entire car, and the JJ1 is the exterior color, and the K is the interior color, but there is more than one color inside, so that is a bit of a headache.


Bill
in order for me to get really close to my desired color I added a little bit of taclum powder(baby powder or fine corn starch will also work) to my last 2 clear coats on the dash to give it the fuzzy or suede look, for me it was about glare from the sun.
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It does, and I see that I have the wrong color for my defroster vents, it needs to be dark turtuoise.

Bill

Well, I went to a store here in Santa Rosa that sells Valspar paint. They could not make it. They could make other colors, but what good was that to me. I even brought the code to them, but their system does not go that far back in time. Then, he could anyway only make it in a spray can since I live south of the "sanity line" in this god forsaken state. It is illegal for them to make "sprayable" paint in a can with a lid, but sprayable paint in a spraycan, well he could sell me 1000 of those if I wanted. Go figure! And Suede finish, well, what is that ? One customer where they sold the Valspar knew what it was.
So, I went to another shop that mix and sells paints, same thing there, they could not even mix a flat paint for me because the guy who knew how to mix in "flattener" had just gone on vacation for 2 weeks.
And they could only make a one stage paint, so it would be fully glossy.

The other store with the missing expert sells Alexit paint from I guess Mankiewicz, and that seems to be what is available around here. No PPG or Dietzler for example.

Guess I am a bit lost with that paint issue. One guy said, we can only make exterior paints, that is all we have codes for.

Guess I have to go to a different town north of the "sanity line" next week and see if they can fix paint for me. Isn't life hard enough as it is, without making these stupid rules ?


Bill
 
You might be better off checking with someplace like Herbs Parts or Classic Industries for the correct color and flatness. They have done all the homework.
 
Well, I went to a store here in Santa Rosa that sells Valspar paint. They could not make it. They could make other colors, but what good was that to me. I even brought the code to them, but their system does not go that far back in time. Then, he could anyway only make it in a spray can since I live south of the "sanity line" in this god forsaken state. It is illegal for them to make "sprayable" paint in a can with a lid, but sprayable paint in a spraycan, well he could sell me 1000 of those if I wanted. Go figure! And Suede finish, well, what is that ? One customer where they sold the Valspar knew what it was.
So, I went to another shop that mix and sells paints, same thing there, they could not even mix a flat paint for me because the guy who knew how to mix in "flattener" had just gone on vacation for 2 weeks.
And they could only make a one stage paint, so it would be fully glossy.

The other store with the missing expert sells Alexit paint from I guess Mankiewicz, and that seems to be what is available around here. No PPG or Dietzler for example.

Guess I am a bit lost with that paint issue. One guy said, we can only make exterior paints, that is all we have codes for.

Guess I have to go to a different town north of the "sanity line" next week and see if they can fix paint for me. Isn't life hard enough as it is, without making these stupid rules ?


Bill

Bill just have them make the gloss color, don't worry about the suede. you can get a pint of gloss. (if using single stage color instead of base coat clear coat just add a bit of corn starch into the mix )spray out the color on a board and wait to dry lightly hit it with 1000-1200 grit to bring out the suede you will get from the cornstarch (or talcum powder(baby powder works too!)) Adjust to your liking, mine took 50 grams of talcum powder in 4oz. to get the look I needed. If using base coat clear coat(BC/CC)
the just add it into the last couple coats of clear and lightly hit that with 1000-1200 grit. it'll suede right up for ya.
 
Bill just have them make the gloss color, don't worry about the suede. you can get a pint of gloss. (if using single stage color instead of base coat clear coat just add a bit of corn starch into the mix )spray out the color on a board and wait to dry lightly hit it with 1000-1200 grit to bring out the suede you will get from the cornstarch (or talcum powder(baby powder works too!)) Adjust to your liking, mine took 50 grams of talcum powder in 4oz. to get the look I needed. If using base coat clear coat(BC/CC)
the just add it into the last couple coats of clear and lightly hit that with 1000-1200 grit. it'll suede right up for ya.

But I can not add talcum or corn starch to the spray cans, can I ? I have to go to another town half an hour up north to order it, and then pick it up a day or two later.

Bill
 
But I can not add talcum or corn starch to the spray cans, can I ? I have to go to another town half an hour up north to order it, and then pick it up a day or two later.

Bill
nope, not unless hey are willing to add 50 grams ......hmmm less than that for spray cans (typically about 1-2oz of spray able paint,that would be ) ... I'd say 5 grams of talcum powder to the paint mix before they put it into the can.

I can relate to the hour and a half drive, I'm in the sticks and it 25 minutes or more to anywhere for anything, my nearest painter supply is 1 hour away and they don't mix special colors anymore so it 80 minutes to the next one (of course it not in the same direction so 1 hour plus the 80 minutes)
 
nope, not unless hey are willing to add 50 grams ......hmmm less than that for spray cans (typically about 1-2oz of spray able paint,that would be ) ... I'd say 5 grams of talcum powder to the paint mix before they put it into the can.

I can relate to the hour and a half drive, I'm in the sticks and it 25 minutes or more to anywhere for anything, my nearest painter supply is 1 hour away and they don't mix special colors anymore so it 80 minutes to the next one (of course it not in the same direction so 1 hour plus the 80 minutes)

Biggest problem here is California law that says spraying paint in the quality I need is forbidden. Then some smartie has determined that it is not considered spraying if it comes from a spray can, but it is considered spraying if it comes from a spray gun. The excuse is the environment, and people then drive themselves silly to get north of the "sanity line" as I call it where they can get what they want. Like that is any better for the environment. So, either drive up north to get the paint, and paint the old car in a garage somewhere. Or haul the entire car up north and have it sprayed, unless they are sanding it down to bare metal and sprayed in a modern kind of paint. Not sure the word "modern" is the right one here, as I feel it is backwards.

Bill
 
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