torque box's

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My 4 speed '69 Swinger has them, my '69 GTS auto does not.
 
All 67-69 convertible have front and rear. All 4-speed 340-383 cars should have rears, some have fronts like my 69 GTS 383. I have seen a few automatic 383's with them but not many.
 
My 73 Dart Sport, 340 3speed on the floor has them.

Had a 72 340 Duster with the 3speed on the floor that had them.

Had 2, 73 Dusters 340 auto without them.

Had a 73 Duster 340, 4speed but I don't remember it having them.
 
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My 73 Dart Sport, 340 3speed on the floor has them.

That sounds right...and I can verify that my '73 Dart Sport 318 2bbl/auto did NOT have them.
I had the USCartool pieces welded in this summer.
 
I would have thought they'd have been unavailable by 73...with all the low-po engines..
 
My friends ‘69 340 4 speed had them. Someone turned in into a big block auto drag car and cut them out for fender well headers and fuel line routing.
 
I would have thought they'd have been unavailable by 73...with all the low-po engines..

360s continued on for three more years, as I'm sure you know. No, the lower compression motors were not as exciting as 1968 340 but just how much difference do you think there was in terms of stress on the unibody?
 
It was hit and miss thru the years.
Some had just rears. Some had none. Some had all 4
 
Over the years I have see all 4spd and conv. cars had them. Reparing cars in the 70's-80's I myself would removed front clips as per the insurance. We would remove the boxes and we did not replace them. Due to the fact we would have to destroy them and the clips we got did not have them. I wouldn't go by what you see today. I was at Carlisle this year and saw several cars we made out of two cars.

The car below was being described as a original drag car from out west that was meticulously restored to oringinal. It was a 383 4spd. with the data plate intact . As soon as I saw the car I new it was one of my creations from years back.

They admitted the quarter was hit on the left but said it was hit at the track. then they said the rear axle was bent It was done when my friend hit a street sign and the curb.

I told her I thought this was my car. I explained to her a dent that I never knocked out and just filled it in the upper left rear panel behind the deck lid and asked if she would open the trunk. There it was this was my car. It was originally a autu on the column car non air grabber race car with the roll control button taped to the shifter. My freind smashed the front and we fixed it changed it to 4 spd and it was sold and went west.

I didn't have the heart to tell them they bought a modded car that wasn't real. Dave , Jim and I walked away. not telling them it did not come that way from the factory. There were clipped cars there and clones we have done in the show field and the other tents that were never recognized by judges. I live not to far from Carlisle. I have seen many of my creations from the 70's show up there. If I would show proof it would be bad for me and for them. most all body shops used two cars to fix one back then without reconstructed titles

Here is the car being changed to what it is today, and I have pictures of many more B&E bodies we did Next time look for it at Carlisle. Believe me that Data plates and paper work are obtainable . You can see the dent that I was talking about that I showed her.

Its a shame that the car was miss represented after I sold it. I included the original Data plate. This car was done in the late 70's early 80's as stated. This is why I say never believe what to see on a car unless you know its real history. We removed the front torque boxes all the time to clip them. I can take these cars apart and know here most of the spot welds are. Members come here and see it with their own eyes

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360s continued on for three more years, as I'm sure you know. No, the lower compression motors were not as exciting as 1968 340 but just how much difference do you think there was in terms of stress on the unibody?

A substantial difference I'd think ...we're talking stock of course...
Huge decrease in engine hp/tq from 68 to 73.
No big blocks available. There's most of the losses...plus emissions, safety standard changes, etc.
You couldn't even get an 8.75 rear after 72.

Love the 70s 360, but not in stock trim. Beyond not exciting to me.

Got a couple 360s in mopars and another will see duty in an old ford so it's not a bias.:D
 
A substantial difference I'd think ...we're talking stock of course...
Huge decrease in engine hp/tq from 68 to 73.
No big blocks available. There's most of the losses...plus emissions, safety standard changes, etc.
You couldn't even get an 8.75 rear after 72.

Love the 70s 360, but not in stock trim. Beyond not exciting to me.

Got a couple 360s in mopars and another will see duty in an old ford so it's not a bias.:D
Ok, fine. No doubt, the earlier engines were more potent. We don't need to argue over what constitutes a "huge decrease" in torque but IIRC, they're within 20 ft-lbs (~6%)of each other.
 
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