O.K. Now we are getting somewhere. I went back and read all your post and not once did you say anything about consistency. You said faster. Automatics are more consistent and I got beat by a 75 B100 running 21.00 all day long, at the end of the day he won the trophy, out drove everybody. Now it was not faster it was just consistent. A stick is faster than a automatic and I will stick with that because I have lived it. So you can stick your red X, you know where !