B 17 Crash

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The Norwegian media????

Yes, it came out fairly quick over there. I am Norwegian and read the news from Norway. The first I saw it was on Warbirds on Facebook, and I looked at it around 15 minutes after the crash, but they had no details then. After that I read the news from Norway, and suddenly it was there too, and with more details. They are quick with the news, now sadly report that 7 is confirmed dead.

Bill
 
Some info on the lost plane that I pulled from the web

Nine-O-Nine was a Boeing B-17G-30-BO Flying Fortress heavy bomber, of the 323rd Bomb Squadron, 91st Bomb Group, that completed 140 combat missions during World War II, believed to be the Eighth Air Force record for most missions, without loss to the crews that flew it. A different B-17G, painted as a representation of the original Nine-O-Nine, crashed at Bradley International Airport in Windsor Locks, Connecticut, on October 2, 2019.

B-17G-85-DL, 44-83575, civil registration N93012, owned and flown by the Collings Foundation of Stow, Massachusetts, appeared at airshows marked as the historic Nine-O-Nine.

The Collings' Flying Fortress was built at Long Beach, California, by the Douglas Aircraft Company and accepted on April 7, 1945. Although she was too late for combat, #44-83575 did serve air-sea rescue duties as part of the Air/Sea 1st Rescue Squadron and later in the Military Air Transport Service.

In April 1952, #44-83575 was instrumented and subjected to the effects of three different nuclear explosions. After a thirteen-year "cool down" period, #44-83575 was sold as part of an 800-ton scrap pile and Aircraft Specialties Company began the restoration of the aircraft.

Damaged skin was fabricated and replaced on site; engines and props were stripped, cleaned, repaired, and tested; four thousand feet of new control cable was installed; all electrical wiring and instrumentation was replaced.

For twenty years, without a major problem or incident, #44-83575 served as a fire bomber dropping water and borate on forest fires. She was sold in January 1986 to the Collings Foundation. Restored back to her original wartime configuration by Tom Reilly Vintage Aircraft, she represented one of the finest B-17 restorations and won several awards.
 
Well, wow, what a tragedy all around. Prayers out to the Crew's families, always hate when something of joy & dedication turns tragic, but the spirit will persevere as it always does...with a renewed sense of appreciation.......................
 
I am truly saddened and at an unease with this crash. Last month we saw this plane, and decided that on Oct 11th, I was going to fly on her. My wife wanted to ride the B24. So, one of us needed to stay with the 3yr old boy, while the other flew. Now, obviously plans have changed. I love history and WW2 aviation and lost another precious piece of our past.
My heart goes out to the families who lost their lives ones today in this tragic crash.
Pictures are of NineO-Nine last month.
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I just heard that a Collings Foundation B-17 crashed upon landing at Bradley Airport, Hartford CT. Three people were taken to the hospital, no further details at this time.
A little too close for me......my brother was on that plane just last Saturday in Nashua NH. He asked me to go but I had other plans. Gave me chills when I heard the news. I told him to say a thankful prayer.
 
We have a B17 here in Mesa at the CAF. Never flew in one however toured inside. Very cramped accommodations. Have to remember the men who flew those planes back in the day were a lot skinnier and shorter than men today.

As far as maintenance I spent several hours with a couple of the maintainers last fall. All maintainers are highly qualified, school trained and must be FAA certified. The day I was there they were tearing down the engines after their annual summer tour around the United States.

The CAF requires all their volunteers to go through an extensive training orientation before they even get close to operating aircraft.
 
My background is having been a jet aircraft mechanic, (crew chief,) maintenance man, (Phantom Phixer) back in my Air Force days.
This year i took a flight in the B-25 Mitchell, when it was making the rounds here in Sacramento with the B-17, and B-24.
When were all the the fuselage of the B-25, before engine start up i asked the pilot, how many hours are on the airframe, and the engine(s).
On the airframe, must be many thousands, and thousands, for something that old.
An unknown amount of time.
As far as engines go, i never got an answer to that question of mine.
That B-25 on engine start up those engines, spit, sputter, back fire, sounding like large fireworks, going off, all the way down the taxi way, to the end of the runway.

Sounds like that B-17 crash had problems with an engine, maybe two, of them, and just didn't have enough power, lift, to gain any altitude.
Guess the NTSB will have it figured out, given time for the investigation.
After all, there were a few survivors of the crash.



 
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A little too close for me......my brother was on that plane just last Saturday in Nashua NH. He asked me to go but I had other plans. Gave me chills when I heard the news. I told him to say a thankful prayer.
I saw them in Worcester, MA a week and a half ago, did not have the dough for a ride, looks like I should have made the effort..
 
There is an air show scheduled here the weekend after next that usually includes vintage aircraft. If the NTSB grounds all aircraft of that vintage there will be some unhappy folks. There are probably Stearman flying that are 90 years old by now. And who doesn't get a kick out of watching a Stearman do barrel rolls? :steering:
 
There is an air show scheduled here the weekend after next that usually includes vintage aircraft. If the NTSB grounds all aircraft of that vintage there will be some unhappy folks. There are probably Stearman flying that are 90 years old by now. And who doesn't get a kick out of watching a Stearman do barrel rolls? :steering:
Never happen (grounding)... and there is no way it could happen that fast, no matter what.
 
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I toured this aircraft this year on Memorial Day in Livermore. Transcript of pilots mayday call was they had lost an engine and needed emergency vector to airport.
 
I toured this aircraft this year on Memorial Day in Livermore. Transcript of pilots mayday call was they had lost an engine and needed emergency vector to airport.
They have 4 engines. That's what I can't understand. Those babies could fly with two, easily. In war time. And he wasn't carrying 4,500 pound of bombs, or all those guns, or ammo. I guess we'll have to wat 12-18 months (!) for NTSB to tell us what happened.
 
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