Aluminum heads

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Dan s said:
Well I just got off summit web site. Just window shopping I’m at 5600 dollars. That’s just rotating assembly, heads, rocker arms studs and oil pump. I already have an air gap intake (new in the box). And all of the msd that is on my 318 should work. The block I have has already been machined but will need to be checked out so that will probly cost a little more. I have a 318 that has a cracked block. Will the oil pump pick up work?oil pan? My carb on my 318 is almost new but I’m not sure it will be big enough(650). The cam would be the only big item that I’m missing. I think.
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I built my own and I gave my self a budget of $7000 to build my 418 stroker. $13,000 later and I have a killer small block that brings a smile to my face just by starting it up. It dynoed at 490 HP and 516 TQ It definitely out does the Blueprint but costs almost twice as much. If I had to do it again I probably would try the Blueprint, hard to beat the price and with a warranty it's pretty tempting. Still I am happy with mine.
 
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superchargeddrt said:
I built my own and I gave my self a budget of $7000 to build my 418 stroker. $13,000 later and I have a killer small block that brings a smile to my face just by starting it up. It dynoed at 490 up and 516 tq. It definitely out does the Blueprint but costs almost twice as much. If I had to do it again I probably would try the Blueprint, hard to beat the price and with a warranty it's pretty tempting. Still I am happy with mine.
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Budgets are like silly putty!! You just shape it until it comes out right!
 
superchargeddrt said:
I built my own and I gave my self a budget of $7000 to build my 418 stroker. $13,000 later and I have a killer small block that brings a smile to my face just by starting it up. It dynoed at 490 up and 516 tq. It definitely out does the Blueprint but costs almost twice as much. If I had to do it again I probably would try the Blueprint, hard to beat the price and with a warranty it's pretty tempting. Still I am happy with mine.
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7K is a low price tag on a stroker never mind one with power. The BP is IMO an excellent deal for what it is. It just lacks in the head flow department. There begging to be ported or replaced.
 
I wish bp sold a short block. If they did I would go that way
 
Mopar Sam said:
Posts 224, 225. Sometimes I glance through posts too quickly, and have to go back and look, because I missed the persons point. You actually agreed with post 224, and then post 225 made me think you missed the "not" .

I am not the most eloquent poster, that is for sure.

No apologies necessary, I forget what thread I am in half the time, and lately it doesn't even matter.... aluminum/iron/rubber/ketchup its all good!
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LOL.... :lol: I appreciate good humor :D
 
I checked the web site a couple of weeks ago. Couldn’t find it. May have to call
 
Last I read, they ran out of LA cores and shifted to magnum engines and hadn't gotten back into shortblocks (yet?).
I bought one of their hyper-piston'd shortblocks and have been thrilled with it ever since. I'm hoping they bring back the short blocks, or begin to offer more engines with bigger/better heads in the future!
 
gzig5 said:
And the Magnum block drilled to directly support LA head oiling through the shafts to open up the options.
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Naaaaa. Use the Comp Magnum rockers for they can be pushrod oiled. Available only in a 1.5 rocker ratio though. Which just means you make sure the cam you want has the lift you desire/need. Harland Sharp (IIRC) also has has a dedicated rocker set up for the Edelbrock rpm head in which you can call them up to a e them modified for pushrod oiling.

Then there is this members modified Edelbrock head where the rear pedestal is drilled downwards to meet the horizontal drilled hole to allow oil flow from the blocks oil gauge/idiot light hole at the rear China wall. The attaching rocker shaft screw is also bi-directional drilled to allow oil flow into the rocker shaft to feed the rockers.
(Brilliant!)
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rumblefish360 said:
Naaaaa. Use the Comp Magnum rockers for they can be pushrod oiled. Available only in a 1.5 rocker ratio though. Which just means you make sure the cam you want has the lift you desire/need. Harland Sharp (IIRC) also has has a dedicated rocker set up for the Edelbrock rpm head in which you can call them up to a e them modified for pushrod oiling.

Then there is this members modified Edelbrock head where the rear pedestal is drilled downwards to meet the horizontal drilled hole to allow oil flow from the blocks oil gauge/idiot light hole at the rear China wall. The attaching rocker shaft screw is also bi-directional drilled to allow oil flow into the rocker shaft to feed the rockers.
(Brilliant!)
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What does that gain other that constant oil flow to the rockers? You can groove the cam and do that.



Edit: never mind. I had my head up my rear. That's done for a magnum block with LA liked heads. In that case, that's a better fix than trying to drill the oil feed hole in the block.

About noon I'll pull my head out and get with the program.
 
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I'm familiar with all that. But there are a lot of head/rocker/lifter options that get set aside or complicated using the Mag block. It's already being machined, two more holes to allow seamless LA head use aren't going to break the bank and then you can bolt up that old set of W2 heads and rockers without any additional gymnastics. They are giving those HS rockers away and there is still a lot of viable stuff out there.
 
yellow rose said:
What does that gain other that constant oil flow to the rockers? You can groove the cam and do that.
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You missed it YR, there is no oil feed in the Magnum block so your grooved cam does nothing because there is no where for it to go in the Magnum block.
 
rumblefish360 said:
You missed it YR, there is no oil feed in the Magnum block so your grooved cam does nothing because there is no where for it to go in the Magnum block.
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See my edit about with explanation. I have about 2 hours and 42 minutes before my head comes out of my rear. Then I'll get up on the tire and haul ***!!!!
 
OK, then do what ever the **** ya want then.
The routes I gave eliminate the expense of extra machining that other may not want to pay for.

gzig5 said:
I'm familiar with all that. But there are a lot of head/rocker/lifter options that get set aside or complicated using the Mag block. It's already being machined, two more holes to allow seamless LA head use aren't going to break the bank and then you can bolt up that old set of W2 heads and rockers without any additional gymnastics. They are giving those HS rockers away and there is still a lot of viable stuff out there.
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rumblefish360 said:
OK, then do what ever the **** ya want then.
The routes I gave eliminate the expense of extra machining that other may not want to pay for.
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Chill your jets big boy. Just throwing ideas around. No reason to get testy.

A block that accepts both LA or Magnum heads seems to have more value than one that doesn't. If a guy can do the drilling at home with a drill press, I'm sure BP could figure out how to work it into the build process. Maybe even an option for the cheap bastards that don't want to pay for the extra value.
 
gzig5 said:
Chill your jets big boy. Just throwing ideas around. No reason to get testy.
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I have no idea what your talking about here.
All of the above is under 1 word that is a mistake to have been assigned, “Assume.”

A block that accepts both LA or Magnum heads seems to have more value than one that doesn't. If a guy can do the drilling at home with a drill press, I'm sure BP could figure out how to work it into the build process. Maybe even an option for the cheap bastards that don't want to pay for the extra value.
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While I agree with that, (not the home drill press maneuver) that extra step while not hard to figure out requires more work on the behalf of the short lock builder that has to be paid for and I do t want to pay for it and why should I pay for something I do t need just because........

As an option, I like. Pay for something I do t need because people cry like bitches? No thanks.
 
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