13.3's to 11.8's to Forget it...

You guys realize if we didn’t have car websites like this to come on and argue during the Winter months a few of us would probably be serial killers. Love you guys.
or something would actually get done on the cars instead of "watching" this like TV. which this is better. and,yes,the work on the car subject,I do have 4 fingers pointing back at me.