Wrong Parts to Repair a Spool Mount?

** UPDATE, See Post #7. I ordered 2 of these and the one I opened initially had the wrong part in the box. **

So re-gasketing the headers to fix an exhaust leak turned into a much bigger project... but dealing with the subject at hand, I decided to fix up the motor mounts while I had things apart. Rock Auto lists them as all about the same thing, number 2369 if you want to reuse the bracket and just replace the bushing. The car in question is in the orange box on the pic below:



I checked with a couple local places and after striking out on the first two tries, AutoZone said they could have two of them in next day. I picked them up today but ran into a problem when I couldn't get them to fit in the old brackets. I first pressed out what was left of the old rubber, as I was expecting them to fit into the steel retainer piece. There was no way this was going to work, so I knocked the retainer out of the bracket, but it still wouldn't fit.



It's a little too wide.


And even if I opened up the bracket a bit, it looks like it going to have to much gap on the other dimension.

Is this really how these parts are supposed to work? I can always try to return them for the style that includes the brackets, but I'm trying to keep as much of the original hardware as I can. Any ideas?

I don't think that's going to work. Kinda like putting a round peg in a square hole, only yours is oval. Part# EM2369 or EM2325/2326 I think is what you want.

While in the Rockauto catalog, when you clicked on the drop down box for the motor mount, just below there is a line for motor mount insert. Click on it and you will see that energy suspension is selling their motor mounts. There is no sale price till you place it in the cart. Either way, I believe the above is what you're looking for, not what you've bought.

You have to reuse the metal sleeve. Press the new rubber part into the CLEANED up sleeve and go back together.

Tinmannz said:

I don't think that's going to work. Kinda like putting a round peg in a square hole, only yours is oval. Part# EM2369 or EM2325/2326 I think is what you want.

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These are the #2369. The 2325 and 2326 are the ones with the bracket included. I guess I could go that route but I was trying to reuse the old brackets.

Tinmannz said:

While in the Rockauto catalog, when you clicked on the drop down box for the motor mount, just below there is a line for motor mount insert. Click on it and you will see that energy suspension is selling their motor mounts. There is no sale price till you place it in the cart. Either way, I believe the above is what you're looking for, not what you've bought..

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Ahh, I didn't look there. "Must reuse original metal shells" That makes sense, I think those are what I should have gone with. Unfortunately I sort of mangled that one shell when I knocked it out of the mount.

yellow rose said:

You have to reuse the metal sleeve. Press the new rubber part into the CLEANED up sleeve and go back together.

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The problem is the #2369 part is a combination of metal sleeve and rubber bushing. That cylinder on the outside is painted steel. If it won't go into the bracket, there's no way it will go into the shell that used to be in the bracket. But yeah, based on what I'm seeing now, that is the way to do it.

I'll probably just try to return these as they aren't going to work. Thanks everyone.

I have replaced many of these and they always include the shell on the new ones. But yes, I have seen some that are not shaped correctly like yours. Its just a piss poor made part, dont use it.
Sometimes you have to open the hole up just a hair with a die grinder but the shape should be right. Im talking just a de-burring. Also, I seem to recall the hole on one side being slightly smaller so the insert has to go in a certain side first. Once its in and sitting flush it just needs a couple tack welds. You can reflare it with a punch and hammer but its really hard to get it tight like the originals.

Just buy the polyurethane ones that use the old shell.

UPDATE - Yesterday I decided I'd see if I could return these but opened the other box and sure enough, that one was different. Same part numbers on the boxes, but different parts. The one on the right is what I tried using in the first post and the one on the left actually fit. Mystery solved.

One trick I used thanks to an old popular hotrodding or car craft. Is to fill open spaces in new inserts with right stuff or permatex ultra black to make them last longer. I did it and have mine going strong 10+ years! My motor is a mild 360 than has been thrashed and mounts hold well.

QuickDart360 said:

One trick I used thanks to an old popular hotrodding or car craft. Is to fill open spaces in new inserts with right stuff or permatex ultra black to make them last longer. I did it and have mine going strong 10+ years! My motor is a mild 360 than has been thrashed and mounts hold well.

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Yes, you only have to do the bottom side since that is where the weight is. You can even drive in an appropriate size wooden dowl rod and do the same thing.

QuickDart360 said:

One trick I used thanks to an old popular hotrodding or car craft. Is to fill open spaces in new inserts with right stuff or permatex ultra black to make them last longer. I did it and have mine going strong 10+ years! My motor is a mild 360 than has been thrashed and mounts hold well.

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Or windshield urethane

Yup,I have used the silicone, etc trick for more than 30 years. Works good. Kim