I know, was just referring to this forum. Had lots of time and was wading through the beginnings of a ton of cam posts on this forum and honestly I think I saw the first post from 2009, someone mentioning picking from lobes on a list. And it was someone who built engines. Just an observation of of a regular schlub such as myself who had his eyes opened when I joined this forum in 2016. Catalog shopper until then.:) Oh, and I’m going custom from here on out!