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Rainy Day Auto said:
I only like the first three. I wish I would have seen them in the theaters.

I first became a fan when the remastered originals were re released and made a big comeback in 1995. I was 9 years old but I remember the remastered movies on Dolby enhanced VHS lol.

I loved the whole scene on Hoth. When it would snow I would go outside and imagine being on Hoth and saved by Han Solo.
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not a clue what you are talking about (i only seen one that came out a few years ago, since the boy wanted to see it)

but we got a lego boardgame, called "the battle of hoth"

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pishta said:
I too saw the original in a theater (front row mind you as the 1,130 seat theater was packed) and the first first frames captured me. The first sound (John William's iconic intro) was so loud I think I spilled my popcorn. I came out in a daze, telling my Dad, "That's the best movie...". I was 9 and the theater was the 71 foot flagship theater of the Edwards theater line. The front row was so close I had to pan my head to see the entire screen. One of those moments you'll remember forever. This is the theater.
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Hey Pishta -
Is that the theater at Newport Island? If it is then it's the same theater I first saw the original movie at when it first came out. Stood in line waiting for hours in the rain.
 
In 1977 I was 17, in highschool, and working as a mechanic.
One day the boss decides that we all need to go see Starwars. So he turned off the ringer on the phone, locked the doors and we all went to the Fox theater, on the hill in Boulder. It was an afternoon matinee show.
Had a great time, but when we got back to the shop there were a bunch of pissed off people calling to check on their cars, and wanting to know why we weren't answering the phone for like three hours.

A good time was had by all. Boss even paid for the tickets.
 
The standard for sci-fi before Star Wars was Star Trek, but typical sci fi movies had terrible plot, reality, story line, -all hanging on a great idea.-for example:
an astronaut, wearing a effing FACE SHIELD, talking to a killer blob, on Mars, in English negotiating a philosophical peace.
Lame,lazy fiction, especially after Jules Vern, and countless others.
 
greymouser7 said:
The standard for sci-fi before Star Wars was Star Trek, but typical sci fi movies had terrible plot, reality, story line, -all hanging on a great idea.-for example:
an astronaut, wearing a effing FACE SHIELD, talking to a killer blob, on Mars, in English negotiating a philosophical peace.
Lame,lazy fiction, especially after Jules Vern, and countless others.
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Even "screamers" (no it's not a **** movie) ?
I actually like that movie, but the whole "smoking to counteract radation" was a bit thin
 
ocdart said:
Hey Pishta -
Is that the theater at Newport Island? If it is then it's the same theater I first saw the original movie at when it first came out. Stood in line waiting for hours in the rain.
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Yes, Big Newport! @ Fashion Island...The Edwards corp. office was upstairs. Mr Edwards would greet theater goers sometimes outside.
 
If you are a true SW fan, and have not seen "Rebels", I can't recommend it highly enough.

It reinvigorated my love for the original concept.

They delve into the inner workings of the Force including some neutral (non good/evil) characters including Anakin's former Padwan, and give a few glimpses as to what happens to people who leave the Empire.

It's very well written and well thought out, with some fairly complex characters, and a decent ending that has enough of a cliff hanger to suggest a sequel but not enough to leave the series unresolved.

I wish the writers of Rebels had been involved in either some of the live action movies or at least the new animated series, but unfortunately the new animated series is VERY dumbed down and sugar coated.

Rebels was even dark and introspective at times, examining a persons willingness to go on in difficult times.

There is also a underlying influence of Native American culture, which I believe is a good parallel with "the force", and a keen observation by the writers.

In the new series (which I cant even remember the title), 15 storm troopers all miss and no reinforcements arrive despite there being thousands on board the ship or station.

In Rebels, reinforcements always arrived, and the main characters had to plan around it or fight through it.
-and sometimes they got hit, took damage, or even became permanently wounded or killed!

Disney and the writers/producers should get an award for "realistic" (if you can call sci-fi such) treatment given to the plots and characters of Rebels and letting the audience, no matter their age, figure it out without their intelligence being insulted.

In fact, in the previous live action movie, they stole a key scene from Rebels!
In Rebels, a pack of "Force aware" wolves leads the party to the other side of the planet through a series of mazes which turns out to be a portal. Sound familiar?

Again, If you can stream it, watch it!
 
I always liked Sci-Fi movies even when poorly made. I remember seeing a commercial for the original Star Wars before it was out and trying to talk my friends into going to a matinee on opening day. One buddy also saw the commercial and said it looked “stupid” which I agreed with but nobody wanted to go.
I ended up going with my older sister on the second day and there was no line and the theater was mostly empty!
Having zero expectations of a good movie made it really memorable.

I always thought it was just a corny old western movie made with robots but made very well so it was great fun - it could have been made by John Ford.
 
I saw it the other night with a true fan and her brother. Other than Pishta's post here, I had little reason to have high expectations to even be entertained.
I found it reasonably entertaining for the first half or so, and then it started to lose grip. Just talking about it as a relatively stand alone movie. But of course its not. It's the closing of a saga, and yes my friend was very unhappy with it. Glad I saw it in the theater. If you need to do so as I did, go ahead, and call it done.
 
pishta said:
"Hmmm...me thinks greymouser no like Mickey Star wars? " J.Binks
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I liked Mickey’s ‘Star Wars Rebels’ & ‘The Mandalorian’ -both outstanding.

My childhood hero’s corrupted, changed, altered, misconstrued-No, destroyed for some agenda, & then almost worse, drug through lousy, lame, lazy script, plot, dialogue are nails in those hero’s coffins.

The new hero’s could have been brought in as the old hero’s could have trained up new heroes, died off saving others, eventually failed a mission, (in an uplifting, positive message) either providing a plot hook for the new characters.-Some would argue THAT IS what happened, but two things:

1. It was incohesive, sloppy, especially in the success that is today’s fiction writing.

2. Original heroes were degraded, completely robbed of their capabilities & status.

Han, Leia, &Luke were presented as inept, especially in comparison to their previous successes & roles.
Luke tried to kill Han & Leia’s child,
Luke ran away from danger instead of facing it. Same for Han. With no progress with the previous successes & sacrifices of Leia-stagnant. If feminism was important to a cause, they forgot their original hero!

All probably because Disney gets money on new characters and Lucas on old characters-toys.
If you remember, Lucas’s billions started with merchandising-he made his money off the toys.
 
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I think they had to wrap it up, predicated on the box office failures of 'Solo' and 'Rogue one'. Reminded me of the last episode of "Suite life on deck" (cheesy Disney kids show with the Zack and Cody twins and the 2 girls, Brenda Song and the red head Debbie Ryan) where in 30 minutes, they wrapped every plot twist up. Yeah the plot was weak to start but stupid girl London (Brenda Song) suddenly starts talking perfect French and finally graduates, and all the other characters get accepted to their favorite colleges, in a matter of 12 minutes. Disney cancelled the series abruptly and had to make one final episode that was literally thrown together probably in a week. Just a blaring example of poor substitute writing (probably let the original writers go before this) and mailing in the acting and story board. Hey, the kids liked it and I was forced to watch it over the FABO postings....and Debbie Ryan turned out pretty hot!
 
If you like "realistic" Sci-fi, I highly recommend "The Expanse".

Until what could have been the end of the series, there was no way to travel faster than light or any kind of "jumping", just interplanetary travel in our solar system.

The characters have believable day to day jobs, and the political structure and technological advances are incredibly believable.
(earth still has a high unemployment rate and the "UN Secretary General" is the de facto ruler of earth, while a former colony on mars has just won a war of independence from earth and has newer and better tech and ships but is dependent on ice mining from asteroids for water, done primarily by "The Belters", born in space and recently and tensely aligned into the "Outer Planet Alliance".
(there's a lot of turn of the last century Irish immigrant influence in Belter culture, and I'm told "in the book" Belters all have longer limbs because of being born and living in zero G their entire life)

So far the "new season" has been a slight let down as it seems to be entirely focused one one planet and what used to be a good gag of having the Secretary General drop the F bomb has become so common it could be a drinking game.

The writers of this series seem to have anticipated being cancelled as every season finale could actually be the series finale, even though there is a very involved long running plot. Genius.
 
I thought this most recent one was good. Worth a watch but I'm not a Yelp critic so take my opinion with a grain of salt lol
 
pishta said:
I think they had to wrap it up, predicated on the box office failures of 'Solo' and 'Rogue one'. Reminded me of the last episode of "Suite life on deck" (cheesy Disney kids show with the Zack and Cody twins and the 2 girls, Brenda Song and the red head Debbie Ryan) where in 30 minutes, they wrapped every plot twist up. Yeah the plot was weak to start but stupid girl London (Brenda Song) suddenly starts talking perfect French and finally graduates, and all the other characters get accepted to their favorite colleges, in a matter of 12 minutes. Disney cancelled the series abruptly and had to make one final episode that was literally thrown together probably in a week. Just a blaring example of poor substitute writing (probably let the original writers go before this) and mailing in the acting and story board. Hey, the kids liked it and I was forced to watch it over the FABO postings....and Debbie Ryan turned out pretty hot!
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Unfortunately, I am too old to have enjoyed those Disney shows. Dad gave up on cable tricking us, “We’ll buy a VCR instead of cable.” It didn’t really matter as he never let me watch much tv, my sisters, but not me. I would catch glimpses of the show you refer to, never able to enjoy it-especially as I was older chasing girls.
Most of the Disney girls all turned out beautiful-not sure I could let my daughter be subjected to what they went theu as actresses.

Rogue One was not a failure in any sense. I think it made more money than ‘Solo,’ which was rebeled against by fans. Rogue one needed three tweaks to be masterpiece far above evenDisney standards.

There was multiple sacrifice, questionable ethics of their 2nd main character (like solo shot first in the mos eisly canteena) and forest Whittaker’s character, difficultly in success (unlike Rey’s force abilities {Mary Sue is writers term for an unreasonable, unbelievable, powerful hero}), and not really a happy ending-exactly like Empires Strikes Back.

No gimmicky last second solutions, no happy ending, no unbelievable magic fling through space without air or space suit, no change in themes, no agenda, and it completely blended into episode 4 A New Hope, tying together George Lucas prequels to his first movie.
 
Mattax said:
My friend has convinced me to watch Rogue One.
So I was interested in whether there is supporting data for calling it a box office failure.
If I read this correctly, it seems like it did better than the current film trending...
‘Star Wars’ Box Office: ‘Rise Of Skywalker’ Won’t Top ‘Rogue One’
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275M Solo netted 390M worldwide , it needed 500M to break even. I didnt really like that movie or its characters. Rogue one netted 1.05B worldwide but so did Zootopia. Rise will eclipse 1.0B very soon, but It also had the highest price tag of possibly 300M. Zootopia did that on 150M budget, and Finding Dory did it on 200M. Not sure how a cartoon can cost 1M myself. They are all dwarfed by Marvel Endgame..365M budget, 2.79B in revenues! Same production house of Mouse. So why is Disneyland raising the price of admission? They are swimming in cash! :mob:
 
Rogue one may just be favorite. I really enjoyed the last movie. I thought it was done well. Have seen it 4 times. I remember seeing the first one I was seven and would not sleep alone because I thought Darth Vader was gonna get me
 
I always thought Darth Vader was based on a nun that taught first grade at a Catholic grade school.
 
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