65 dart 4 speed transmission

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Tony brunelle

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I just picked up a 65 dart and it has a four speed trans but the bellhousing is missing, the question is what will fit?? Can I use a later model aluminum bellhousing? I do not have a flywheel or clutch so I'd be starting from scratch this is a custom build I'll be running a 322ci poly that's been built with a hx40 turbo Putting out around 600hp not sure what to get, I'd love to find a Lakewood bell but right now I just want to get it on the road!!
 
Many front bearing retainer sizes too.


That poly (Maybe...322?) has an extended bellhousing mount. Im not sure an 883 will fit? read this:

"Here is the scoop; the 1956 to 1961 Plymouth Poly engines which includes Dodge except for the strictly Dodge 270/315/325 Poly's (able to convert to HEMIS) had and extended crankshaft flange with and eight bolt end where the studded torque covnertors bolted to the crank - just like the HEMIS. This anomaly prevents using the modern LA aluminum caseTorqueflite trannys with these early Poly 318 engines without the special adapter sold by Wil-Cap and some other mfgrs. Therefore, only the early cast iron Torqueflite transmissions made for these cars can be used.


Secondly, the bolt pattern on these 56-61 277/301/303/313/318/326 Poly engines is different than the later 1962-66 Poly 318 engines and thus all the LA engines. The top four holes will line up but the bottom two holes on either side of the block, along with the dowel locating pins are different than the 62-66 Poly 318 engines and all LA engines.

Third, the starter location on all the aforementioned Poly engines is different, positioned approx.between four and five o' clock vs. the 62-66 Poly 318 engines and all LA engines. The 62-66 Poly 318 enignes and all LA engines starter location is closer to the block; approx. the five o' clock postion.

Therefore, if you have read the info. carefully you will correctly deduce that the bellhousing pattern on the 1962-66 Poly 318 engines is the same as all the LA engines (273/318/340/360) into the early seventies* except for one lower bolt hole/driver side on the Poly is not found on the LA; this is not a compatiblity problem and the transmission will still mate and function correctly. The "missing hole" can be drilled into the late model case is you like.

The 1962-66 Poly engines can use the same aluminum case Torqueflite transmissions as the LA engines because their bellhousing pattern is the same except for the *one bolt hole difference."

check before you build.
 
You need the cast iron slant six 63-66 bellhousing. Depending on your year of motor will depend on which Flywheel you will need, either 63-67 Flywheel with the smaller crank register or the 68 and up flywheel.
 
Many front bearing retainer sizes too.


That poly (Maybe...322?) has an extended bellhousing mount. Im not sure an 883 will fit? read this:

"Here is the scoop; the 1956 to 1961 Plymouth Poly engines which includes Dodge except for the strictly Dodge 270/315/325 Poly's (able to convert to HEMIS) had and extended crankshaft flange with and eight bolt end where the studded torque covnertors bolted to the crank - just like the HEMIS. This anomaly prevents using the modern LA aluminum caseTorqueflite trannys with these early Poly 318 engines without the special adapter sold by Wil-Cap and some other mfgrs. Therefore, only the early cast iron Torqueflite transmissions made for these cars can be used.


Secondly, the bolt pattern on these 56-61 277/301/303/313/318/326 Poly engines is different than the later 1962-66 Poly 318 engines and thus all the LA engines. The top four holes will line up but the bottom two holes on either side of the block, along with the dowel locating pins are different than the 62-66 Poly 318 engines and all LA engines.

Third, the starter location on all the aforementioned Poly engines is different, positioned approx.between four and five o' clock vs. the 62-66 Poly 318 engines and all LA engines. The 62-66 Poly 318 enignes and all LA engines starter location is closer to the block; approx. the five o' clock postion.

Therefore, if you have read the info. carefully you will correctly deduce that the bellhousing pattern on the 1962-66 Poly 318 engines is the same as all the LA engines (273/318/340/360) into the early seventies* except for one lower bolt hole/driver side on the Poly is not found on the LA; this is not a compatiblity problem and the transmission will still mate and function correctly. The "missing hole" can be drilled into the late model case is you like.

The 1962-66 Poly engines can use the same aluminum case Torqueflite transmissions as the LA engines because their bellhousing pattern is the same except for the *one bolt hole difference."

check before you build.
the poly is a 318 .030 over it will work that's not the topic sorry I need info on the bellhousing and flywheel and clutch I keep seeing a9 1/2 ,10 1/2 11 in , 3 different bells iron aluminum I just need the correct combo!
 
You need the cast iron slant six 63-66 bellhousing. Depending on your year of motor will depend on which Flywheel you will need, either 63-67 Flywheel with the smaller crank register or the 68 and up flywheel.
it's a 66 318, slant 6 bell will not work at all!!
 
Sorry about the 322 poly listing, but there were so many older poly motors that '322' could have been some 1 year fluke, not the almost standard LA bolt housing 318 A. Marcohotrod posted "get the trans input retainer outside diam first - 4.3 4.8 5.1" and a small bell to match". The input retainer is the part that I was thinking (not front bearing retainer) that changed diameters over time.
 
it's a 66 318, slant 6 bell will not work at all!!
ahahahha oh crap i thought it was a slant six,

well in that case, you can use later aluminum 318 bell housing with the 10.5 clutch more heavy duty, also you would a need z bar and bell crank for the aluminum bell with 10.5 clutch brewers has it all, i know the poly 318 takes the same bell housing as a la 318, but im not sure on the crank register issue. but call brewer like posted i have done this swap but with a 318LA in a 65 dart
 
Sorry about the 322 poly listing, but there were so many older poly motors that '322' could have been some 1 year fluke, not the almost standard LA bolt housing 318 A. Marcohotrod posted "get the trans input retainer outside diam first - 4.3 4.8 5.1" and a small bell to match". The input retainer is the part that I was thinking (not front bearing retainer) that changed diameters over time.
It's a 318. .030 over! Sorry!!
 
Ok so talking with brewers what I'm looking for is a 482,734,or a 887 casting numbers bellhousing so anyone got one of these forsale hit me up please!!
 
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