Odd 4speed shift pattern help

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So definitely the reverse lever needs to be flipped upside down and sticking up words... That will put it where it's supposed to be now are you still saying that it goes from 1st to 3rd and then to 2nd to 4th?.. or is the one two three four in the correct pattern?.
1st, 2nd and all gears seem normal positions..reverse I will switch today and try it. Thank you
 
1st, 2nd and all gears seem normal positions..reverse I will switch today and try it. Thank you
It possibly may be needed to be recalibrated a little bit. If you put everything in neutral and most of the time you can slip a quarter inch drill bit through the shifter leavers to keep them in the neutral position flip your lraver over and adjust things accordingly so they fit all cozy and don't forget to take the drill bit back out LOL...
 
So definitely the reverse lever needs to be flipped upside down and sticking up words... That will put it where it's supposed to be now are you still saying that it goes from 1st to 3rd and then to 2nd to 4th?.. or is the one two three four in the correct pattern?.
1 2 3 4 pattern seems correct now.. Thank you
 
Can anyone tell if this is a over drive trans or a normal 833?
if the leavers are all up like that you would know when you shifted between third and fourth gear.. third gear would be overdrive the way the leavers are set up..
 
1 2 3 4 pattern seems correct now.. Thank you
If it was in overdrive and hooked up correctly the 4th and 3rd shifter would be upside down and facing downwards...
so as it is facing upwards if you were going to 3rd gear and it would go into overdrive from second and you would feel it tremendously then you pull back into fourth and it would drop down a gear seemingly...
 
I could see where someone might like reverse facing backwards but you don't want to go grab 2nd and grab reverse...
 
What kind of shifter do you have?
Hurst shifter

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Remember that's a shifter handle and shifter lever sticking out of a boot... Not the mechanism that's attached to the transmission... You might try screwing on a ball shifter and seeing if you don't like it better...
That is what I am doing today, putting a ball on it..Thank you..
 
There are only two foolproof ways of telling if the trans is an overdrive
1) pop the cover and look; this is foolproof, or
2) put it in third and compare the input turns to the output turns; same in/out is an od box

And several other ways that all these years later, may or may not point to an od-box;
3) the od has a 5.125 front retainer and none other does. But this ain't fool proof, cuz someone could have swapped a standard gearset into the od box.
4) the od boxs usually are aluminum. the standard usually are cast iron.
5) the A-body od-boxs are usually 904 output sized
6) if a box for a 340 or bigger, it will have a 727 sized output
7) there is a PN stamped on the RH side.Just look it up.
8) Shifters and levers and orientation,may or may not be helpful.
9) if it has a long tail, with two shifter bases on it, it was never born an od, unless maybe it has a Chevy input. But then it will have the 5.125 retainer.
10) There may be more..........
that's the best I got,
except for a streeter with a performance engine, the od box rarely works out, because the splits are just to wide.
Oh yeah, and IMO, a ball-shift handle is the best; you have so many options in the way you can palm it. and rarely might you slip off it, and it's really hard to bust your knuckles up on the dash when you do.
 
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There are only two foolproof ways of telling if the trans is an overdrive
1) pop the cover and look; this is foolproof, or
2) put it in third and compare the input turns to the output turns; same in/out is an od box

And several other ways that all these years later, may or may not point to an od-box;
3) the od has a 5.125 front retainer and none other does. But this ain't fool proof, cuz someone could have swapped a standard gearset into the od box.
4) the od boxs usually are aluminum. the standard usually are cast iron.
5) the A-body od-boxs are usually 904 output sized
6) if a box for a 340 or bigger, it will have a 727 sized output
7) there is a PN stamped on the RH side.Just look it up.
8) Shifters and levers and orientation,may or may not be helpful.
9) if it has a long tail, with two shifter bases on it, it was never born an od, unless maybe it has a Chevy input. But then it will have the 5.125 rerainer.
10) There may be more..........
that's the best I got,
except for a streeter with a performance engine, the od box rarely works out, because the splits are just to wide.
Oh yeah, and IMO, a ball-shift handle is the best; you have so many options in the way you can palm it. and rarely might you slip off it, and it's really hard to bust your knuckles when you do.
 
Thank for great knowledge of information...Very useful.. Appreciate it
 
The actual shifter is what's bolted TO the transmission. It may well be a Hurst, but you'll not know until you look at it.
 
Can anyone tell if this is a over drive trans or a normal 833?

Can you drive the car? You will soon know. If the engine runs slower RPM in the "normal" 4th gear position, it is OD in which case you will want to flip the 3-4 (front) lever upside down
 
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