interesting. this is the first i've really read this. i daily my car til the snow falls/salt comes down and i do lots of short trips because i live in the city. is this a common known thing that they just get bad gas mileage on short trips? i know on the highway i steady get 20-23mpg in my slant six (dont know the gears off the top of my head) but in the city for short trips im getting 12-15mpg and i just keep assuming something is wrong with the car, but those short trips are often less than 30 minutes. and i drive that car like an old lady going to church to make sure everyone can get an eye full so im definitely not heavy on the gas.