Asbestos

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I just try not to think about it. lol
 
RustyRatRod said:
I just try not to think about it. lol
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My uncles last words.... MORE GAS. He was talking about oxygen. In the end it basically boils down to Pneumonia. Hopefully somebody will knock me in the head before then. It's hard NOT to think about it as we age and see people pass but I will try. I figure about 80 % of the things I have worried about, never come to fruition. PARTY ON DUDE!
 
Bodyperson said:
My uncles last words.... MORE GAS. He was talking about oxygen. In the end it basically boils down to Pneumonia. Hopefully somebody will knock me in the head before then. It's hard NOT to think about it as we age and see people pass but I will try. I figure about 80 % of the things I have worried about, never come to fruition. PARTY ON DUDE!
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sorry for that!
 
1969383S said:
sorry for that!
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Thanks. No real biggy. He was young but didn't suffer a lot. That was a long time ago but I was like the son he never had. Been to a dozen more funerals since then. My Dad had 12 siblings. All of them gone now. We used to have some fun family gatherings back in the day.
 
Bodyperson said:
Thanks. No real biggy. He was young but didn't suffer a lot. That was a long time ago but I was like the son he never had. Been to a dozen more funerals since then. My Dad had 12 siblings. All of them gone now. We used to have some fun family gatherings back in the day.
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Does not sound like fun to me and have to look forward to parents and more shortly. I can only hope I outlive them but not sure anymore. They are in their 80’s and better off than me in their health.
 
1969383S said:
Does not sound like fun to me and have to look forward to parents and more shortly. I can only hope I outlive them but not sure anymore. They are in their 80’s and better off than me in their health.
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Sorry to here that. It sure aint supppose to go down like that.
 
Bodyperson said:
Sorry to here that. It sure aint supppose to go down like that.[/QUOTE

Was commenting about you and your family. My pops turned 82 and rode the same in miles on his bycycle for his birthday! He is a rock! I hope he outlives me. He may say otherwise!
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Thats what I was saying, Parents should not see their children pass before them. It's just not the way. Gotta roll with the punches I guess.
 
Hoping 83 gives the same for pops. For me maybe 10 miles and toast!
 
I worked for a rock quarry and most days came home white, never used a respirator until my last stint there, just have my fingers crossed it don't get me, on the asbestos side of things it's been used for many many years even back in the Roman days and has been known to cause illness and death back as far as the early 1800s so the companys that were still making huge profits from it right up to recent times late 80s early 90s should have been hanged drawn and quartered, absolutely fantastic product but at what price.
 
1969383S said:
My current company does not do much cutting or such and mainly drilling in concrete. We must use hepa filter captured drills when doing anything more than 4 holes. That said the environment we work in has much more silicosis work and we have a stop work policy for such!
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OK.
Remember that you can read "anything" on the internet.
But I've spent hours researching and this is what I've gleaned.
Supplied air is best.
One would think since these are approved for asbestos you could use them for silica.
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But I started reading the enclosed sheet and couldn't make head or tails of it.
It's all lawyer talk and gobbledygook gook.
Not just me.
I gave it to a mechanical engineer and he couldn't understand it ether.
Bottom line: 3M will not approve them for silica.
I sure it has to do with PEL and exposure limits.
3M doesn't know what concentration levels you will be working in or how long.
Plus I suspect it has to do with the particle size of silica dust.
Be careful.

So I started trying to find that information.
The ONLY place I found exposure levels for silica dust for half mask was that the CDC web site.
IIRC they gave OSHA limits for half mask.
I've got that at work if anyone is interested.
 
The more you learn about asbestos the more it scares you. We had to take yearly asbestos classes in the steel mill as part of our safety classes. Mechanics have be warned for years (before 1980) not to blow brake dust. If you are in your 40’s or older we have been around it our whole lives. Schools used it like crazy, older homes to wrap pipes and insulation, brakes, ceiling tiles, and many other uses. Google a magnified picture of it and you will see why it sticks in your lungs. Check out the weight of it and you will understand why it stays airborne so long. Google lead and you won’t like that much either.
 
Well if you ate asbestos, that is not the issue. It is the inhalation.

Fiberglass is not thought or known to cause mesothelioma, which is the cancer caused by asbestos. The fiberglass particle sizes are too big to do what the extremely fine asbestos particles can do to lung cells. Does not mean that other issues are not happening with fiberglass.... if it gives your skin a rash, it's gonna effect your lungs similarly.

I worked in a dusty crawlspace for several weeks in the 70's that had fiberglass from the 30's in it that was all 'fried' out everywhere. Came out hacking for an hour or so every day for those weeks. Always have wondered if that had any long term effects. But, dang, exposure to gasoline and such around engines has been going on for me for 40+ years.
 
I crawl around an arena for 4 weeks a year that is full of encapsulated asbestos in the crawlways. I hope I dont disturb anything up there~! Ill wear my mask this year. As I know, encapsulated is OK as long as it stays that way (looks like shiny acoustic ceiling popcorn)

We got new regs for crawling blown insulation attics now: Must have active ventilation (running fan) lit, and have support boards. WE cant dig for cables, they must be visible. also if it is not labeled in access hatch as 'non asbestos', we have the authority to not enter. We can request the sub to get it inspected and tagged as non asbestos for a return visit, but I usually just tell them to get a cordless satellite phone system and run it of 1 working jack. Hundreds less than an inspection! Safety first.
 
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I've seen first hand what asbestos can do to a person. My dad worked in the insulation trade form the mid 1950's to 1980 covering pipes, boiler,etc.
in construction settings. Yes he did smoke also, but quit on doctors orders.
He died at age 59 in 1982. It was hard watching him basically suffocate to death from Asbestosis.
He never got Mesothelioma though.

Asbestos is a nasty baster it's got little barbs on it that when breathed in hang on to the walls of the air sacks in lungs an calcify so the oxygen can't be transfer to the blood. It also hardens the lungs so they can't expand like they should.

The thing is they knew what it did long before they let it be known to the public. It was cheap.
It could be mined with little manufacturing needed.
Sorry for the rant!
I saw this and brought back memories of watching my strong healthy dad slowly whither away.

Take care everyone! I hope you or your families never have to experience this!
I have to go and wipe the tears away.
 
Bodyperson said:
Libby, Montana — The Asbestos Outbreak Libby is not far from me. I did a lot of hunting around that mine and had a couple girlfriend I chased around there. Been a body mechanic over 30 years. I worry. What a horrible way to die. My best friend has it and Lupas. He works for a rock crushing contractor.
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Christ I did not know that stuff could cause Lupus. My Dad and I both, he, more than I, did a LOT of brake religning (riveting) as well as the hated Ammco shoe arcing machine, AND we both turned thousands of brake drums "back then." So far I don't have lung problems, and neither did Dad. But Dad DID have Lupus
 
67Dart273 said:
Christ I did not know that stuff could cause Lupus. My Dad and I both, he, more than I, did a LOT of brake religning (riveting) as well as the hated Ammco shoe arcing machine, AND we both turned thousands of brake drums "back then." So far I don't have lung problems, and neither did Dad. But Dad DID have Lupus
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NO... They say the rock crushing dust may cause Lupus. He has Lupas and Asbestosis
 
I was certified to abate asbestos at my last job. I cant tell you the amount of it I've dealt with. I've had some pretty significant exposures as well, prior to the certification and knowing what it was. I have since switch jobs and now only deal minimally. I find it interesting when people hear the "A" word they freak and high tale it out of the area we may be working in. I just continue working and let them deal with it there own way.. We arent disturbing it but they can see it and just dont like being in the same area.
 
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