Brodix B1BA heads...

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Does anybody know the screen name "Nightingale" I think it was. He was on moparchat a while back. He ran the B1BA's and loved them.

From the moparts board, Pittsburgracer is in the (upper?) 9's with his Edelbrock heads he heavily ported.

@EXcappa I suppose if your looking to make some super serious small block power an R block is the proper part. I myself do not think I'll approach that level with my stock block & W5 heads.

Also, at what level do the Edelbrock heads go above 300 cfm and what are you giving up to exceed that level? We have all seen the thread with the big Mouth heads and the murdered short side? I think that may have been the key to Hughesengines flow rates on there bench?

I'm not casting stones, I don't port heads or have a flow bench. Just a key board idiot looking at data, people's testimonies, etc....
 
rumblefish360 said:
Does anybody know the screen name "Nightingale" I think it was. He was on moparchat a while back. He ran the B1BA's and loved them.

From the moparts board, Pittsburgracer is in the (upper?) 9's with his Edelbrock heads he heavily ported.

@EXcappa I suppose if your looking to make some super serious small block power an R block is the proper part. I myself do not think I'll approach that level with my stock block & W5 heads.

Also, at what level do the Edelbrock heads go above 300 cfm and what are you giving up to exceed that level? We have all seen the thread with the big Mouth heads and the murdered short side? I think that may have been the key to Hughesengines flow rates on there bench?

I'm not casting stones, I don't port heads or have a flow bench. Just a key board idiot looking at data, people's testimonies, etc....
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To get over 300 out of eddies takes a butt load of work. I've done it. For all that work, I'd rather do W-2's or 5's.
 
yellow rose said:
To get over 300 out of eddies takes a butt load of work. I've done it. For all that work, I'd rather do W-2's or 5's.
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I have run a best of 6.21 @ 110 in the 1/8. Stock suspension with caltracs on drag radials through the mufflers at 2950 lbs with a pump gas (93 octane) small block (394 ci) with ported Indy 360-2 heads. They flow 337@.650 lift.
 
D-50394 said:
I guess Triple Threat is not a member here. He was also running them..
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That engine expired in a large unfriendly way.... he's running a gen 3 hemi now. Pretty sure he sold the B1BA top end. IIRC he was running low 10's. That engine originally came out of texas. It was brought to my attention about the time Dustin bought it.

Anyone small block I've had conversations with at the end of our W5 era said to pass on the B1BA.
 
A body said:
That engine expired in a large unfriendly way.... he's running a gen 3 hemi now. Pretty sure he sold the B1BA top end. IIRC he was running low 10's. That engine originally came out of texas. It was brought to my attention about the time Dustin bought it.

Anyone small block I've had conversations with at the end of our W5 era said to pass on the B1BA.
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Think the guy in Texas had a handle of firefighter 3931. They were not B1BA, they were the bigger B1MC heads. Motor was like 430 or 450 cubes and ran 10.20's in a fairly light car.

Good friend local to me has a set of B1BA heads. They are a little better fully ported than an Eddie head. Just take one off headers you have to figure out. Will go 310 or so fully ported, but they make good power.
As i said earlier, the MC head doesn't seem to make power relative to the gaudy 350-360 flow numbers i have heard of. Not ever heard of anyone running them that makes power comparable to a W5 or Indy head. That 10.20 in a light car with lots of cubes is the best i have ever heard of
 
B3422w5 said:
Think the guy in Texas had a handle of firefighter 3931. They were not B1BA, they were the bigger B1MC heads. Motor was like 430 or 450 cubes and ran 10.20's in a fairly light car.

Good friend local to me has a set of B1BA heads. They are a little better fully ported than an Eddie head. Just take one off headers you have to figure out. Will go 310 or so fully ported, but they make good power.
As i said earlier, the MC head doesn't seem to make power relative to the gaudy 350-360 flow numbers i have heard of. Not ever heard of anyone running them that makes power comparable to a W5 or Indy head. That 10.20 in a light car with lots of cubes is the best i have ever heard of
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I got B1-BA heads on my 340, made 606 hp. Went 9.08 @ 149 in my buddies Plymouth Arrow Super gas car. I think it would have went quicker with the right converter. Machine shop I dealt with was a Brodix dealer, I think the heads were $1900 with titanium retainers.In my Daytona now, working on getting it together

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B3422W5..... yes... Dustin said they were indeed the MC's. thanks for catching that.
 
Here is a little more feedback
As previously mentioned the B1 BA MC had a rough in of 1 inlet ,350cfm @ .700 on a 4.125 bore with a 2.100 valve, said it would go 360cfm with a little more work. Now that was with a 4.080 chamber


He flowed the CNC Edelbrock victor OOTB 354cfm @.800 on a 4.125 bore with 2.150 valve. That was with a 4.120 chamber.

He said the victor flowed a fair amount more at low and mid lift.
 
inkjunkie said:
Just wondering what kind of power they can make? @IQ52....ever work a set of them?
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Finishing up an install on a stock set. They will test your patience and pocketbook. Headers, intake spacers, basically entire upper end. Mine is a stick car that I will just mess around with on street but it has been a battle. Headers are the worst though, most anything shrouds the plugs. I had a brand new set of TTI's I parted ways with to get em to work and had to make custom headers. Bang for the buck, I don't think so. Better options I would think for sure. With the custom headers, it will work out but at the time I though I had a good deal. Just be prepared to spend. But you have a Mopar

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Can I have a side shot, not so overhead?
What intake are you running?
 
Thanks for the pic's.
They don't give you much room for the spark plug boot do they.............
 
Cudafever said:
Thanks for the pic's.
They don't give you much room for the spark plug boot do they.............
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Actually I do not think they are too bad. Like ever with the heads I have to make new plug wires too. Just threw a couple boots on and shot a pic

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AJ/FormS said:
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Exactly. But I made something fit. A lot of rework,rebend, resplice, and adjusting with a BFG, and a receramic-coat. Not to mention the custom mounts. And oh-boy the scattershield and clutch linkage. All that and the guy rarely drives it and when he does; you guessed it, it's to a show. Since installed,I bet it's never been over 4000, even 4 years later,now.
They made 497 dyno-hp tho on a 340, with a 6-pac. Hyup he had to have that too.
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hi. headman race step header fits stock suspension with a little tweeking . 69 dart 416 b1ba 904 has gone 9.80 136 3050 lbs. less driver full glass car only glass hood. have to carry weight to stay in 10s. trick to heads is move intake push rod. need offset rockers. then you can plug that big pushrod hole. and port finish . hugh difference. just thought i could shed some light.
 
I know this post is old but headhunter I was wondering what kind of problems you had with the TTI’s and how did you fasten the alternator with the B1 heads not being drilled
 
F21 said:
I know this post is old but headhunter I was wondering what kind of problems you had with the TTI’s and how did you fasten the alternator with the B1 heads not being drilled
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the headers shrouded the plugs. I may have a few pictures somewhere but I was unwilling to butcher a set of new headers so I sold them and my brother grabbed up a set of step headers for me. The header flanges cover the plug surfaces and I think there were issues with tubes as well covering access to the plugs.

The alternator I mounted on the motor plate. Hopefully the pic is clear enough

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Yeah I just did a dry fit with my TTI The other day since they’re not new I’m going to cut the flange and modify them for spark plug clearance I talked to Richard at koffels place today and he told me I can drill and tap the front of the head for the alternator bracket what is your set up your set up your running Headhunter
 
69 Dart. Been apart for a few years due to panel repair, part collection, paint, etc. Hopefully hit the roads this spring / early summer...finally.

360, stock cast crank / stroke. kB pistons just out of hole. Scr about 10.5. Previous owner decked the block. .509 erson mechanical cam, 750 dp.

Red stripe hemi four speed pro shifted, McCleod Rst, s60 rear with 4.10 gears and a spool. Hurst V-gate shifter, tanksinc efi setup with an msd 6 al2. CSR pump, stock interior / bench seat. All steel car.

headers and the heads were a pita. If I had to do it over again I would’ve kept the TTI’s and put eddies on it.
 
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