Chrome ECU equivalent???

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stroked340 said:
LMAO..chrome and gold are EXCELLENT boxes..a complete M.S.D. system CAN be touched by anything MoPar makes..have run 2 different M.S.D. on my dusters and they always Baffled me on how in the world they performed flawlessly,something that could NEVER be said EVER about MSD ignition systems:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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I made the proper corrections above for you.
Just the facts below.

My early American Orange Boxes, perfect u til they were sold with the car. Shortest ownership time was 5 years.
My Chrome box, better than 26 years and counting.

I drank the MSD cool aid and finally came down from there false high after many glasses downed.
9 MSD boxes, 8 failures. 5 coils, 4 failures, 2 distributors, 2 failures.

1 chink Orange box failure.

Drank FBO cool air, tastes good! Zero failures.
Out powered the MSD & MP units.

M - May
S - suddenly
D - Die

Now before you label me a MSD hater, which is mostly correct but not 100% correct, I do recommend a multi spark box for daily drivers and mileage gains.
Every claim MSD makes except more & better power which should equal better track results right? I agree with. I have my one and only MSD 6A hi still working after 20 years. It added mileage, smoother starts and longer plug life while dropping emissions (when it needed to pass the tail pipe test way back when) on my old ride.

I also have a Jacobs multi spark ignition that is awesome and still working for 20+ years.

There are benefits to a multi spark high energy ignition. It just depends on the maker and arena it is used in.

MSD is NOT an option. Unless the option is failure.
 
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yellow rose said:
I believe I have the P4120600 gold box hanging on the wall in the shop.

I can tell you that is a bad mother humper. At 10k it has ONE DEGREE of retard!!

I need to do some more testing, but that box is worth it's weight in gold if you have one.
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Whoa!!! Lucky you! I’d hang onto that one hard. You’ll find mine in my casket with me.
 
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Don’t forget Daytona Sensors Multi Spark systems.
Sort of an American made precision built MSD
 
Enough of the pole smoking MSD GM hei BS.
Lets get your Dad what he deserves. I can set you up with a Mopar Performance Chrome Box. PM me.

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rumblefish360 said:
Perhaps over the OE factory ignition, yea. Over the chrome and gold, ehhhhh, no.
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The gold an chrome were top of the line in there day and preformed as they promised but technology today has improved many times , now the one I posted is just better than the factory sure I agree with that , never consider it other wise , but there are many other ignition systems in today's market that will out preform the gold or chrome , I do love those gold an chrome , I have a couple put back , but there is better out there in today's market
 
72dustervs said:
The gold an chrome were top of the line in there day and preformed as they promised but technology today has improved many times , now the one I posted is just better than the factory sure I agree with that , never consider it other wise , but there are many other ignition systems in today's market that will out preform the gold or chrome , I do love those gold an chrome , I have a couple put back , but there is better out there in today's market
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Agreed, just not the MSD. To many failures in my stable.
 
rumblefish360 said:
I made the proper corrections above for you.
Just the facts below.

My early American Orange Boxes, perfect u til they were sold with the car. Shortest ownership time was 5 years.
My Chrome box, better than 26 years and counting.

I drank the MSD cool aid and finally came down from there false high after many glasses downed.
9 MSD boxes, 8 failures. 5 coils, 4 failures, 2 distributors, 2 failures.

1 chink Orange box failure.

Drank FBO cool air, tastes good! Zero failures.
Out powered the MSD & MP units.

M - May
S - suddenly
D - Die

Now before you label me a MSD hater, which is mostly correct but not 100% correct, I do recommend a multi spark box for daily drivers and mileage gains.
Every claim MSD makes except more & better power which should equal better track results right? I agree with. I have my one and only MSD 6A hi still working after 20 years. It added mileage, smoother starts and longer plug life while dropping emissions (when it needed to pass the tail pipe test way back when) on my old ride.

I also have a Jacobs multi spark ignition that is awesome and still working for 20+ years.

There are benefits to a multi spark high energy ignition. It just depends on the maker and arena it is used in.

MSD is NOT an option. Unless the option is failure.
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OH please..go to the track some time and see what racers are running,,including professionals who race for a living not one is using that mopar/fiat ****..if they want to win!!
 
Semiconductors have advanced a lot in the last 50 years. Faster and much more efficient. What was hard to do 50 years ago is easy now. That is why you don’t need the mongo power transistors and heat sinks anymore like on on the old mopar boxes. They are fake on a lot of the new ones. Most of the heat in a semiconductor is generated during switching, not when it is on. Faster the switching the less heat Is generated. Less heat means they can be smaller.

If you are paying high dollar for an old mopar box, I would question whether you are getting anything better than a cheaper current design.
 
stroked340 said:
OH please..go to the track some time and see what racers are running,,including professionals who race for a living not one is using that mopar/fiat ****..if they want to win!!
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They don't use off the shelf boxes. None of them do. And what the Pro Stock guy get and use you can't buy.

BTDT.

As I slowly add to my collection of ignition boxes to test, I'll get some MSD junk and see what it does as far as retard with RPM. I may even test some coils, but I know, for a fact that most of the early (and who knows how long it went on) Blaster and Blaster II coils were substandard.

That's why I'm doing the testing so I will know for myself.
 
Mike69cuda said:
Semiconductors have advanced a lot in the last 50 years. Faster and much more efficient. What was hard to do 50 years ago is easy now. That is why you don’t need the mongo power transistors and heat sinks anymore like on on the old mopar boxes. They are fake on a lot of the new ones. Most of the heat in a semiconductor is generated during switching, not when it is on. Faster the switching the less heat Is generated. Less heat means they can be smaller.

If you are paying high dollar for an old mopar box, I would question whether you are getting anything better than a cheaper current design.
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That's why I'm testing all these boxes myself. When I see an old gold box lose 1 degree at 10k that is impressive. I'm betting it takes a worked over MSD box to do that.

And I have several iterations of Mallory boxes in the shop, waiting to be tested.
 
stroked340 said:
OH please..go to the track some time and see what racers are running,,including professionals who race for a living not one is using that mopar/fiat ****..if they want to win!!
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Let’s review something you seem not to give a **** about except your own self serving flag waving of chink ignitions.
Yunick13 said:
Looking for modern equivalent for the chrome ecu, that is no longer available. Dad had the chrome one with blue heat sink, loaned it out, and it's now mia, (imagine that). Still looking for it. In the meantime, I'm looking to see what else is available. His car will not run on anything less than that chrome box. What are the options?
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And you want to run a race ignition.
Oh yea! Hundreds of bucks for an over the top system designed for those ridiculous over powered for the street cars wanting to be first everywhere they go.

This is one time of have to say, you just made “Moron!” It’s a first for me to see this. But I guess there’s a first for everything.
 
There's zero reason it will not run on "any" other good Mopar style ignition box. If that's true, then "somethin's wrong" with it.
 
and to think I wasted all them years running dual points with accel super coil. just got tired of points.
Upgraded to Direct Connection electronic conversion using the chrome box , a very reliable system.
The addition of the FBO plate makes tailoring the timing very easy.
 
Yunick13 said:
Lets put it this way, it doesn't run as strong as it did with the chrome ecu.
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If this is a strip car, like stock eliminator, the differences could be in the dwell and the switching speeds.
The new chinesium boxes may have smaller transistors but that doesn't mean they are faster, disapate heat better, or were designed with the same dwell characteristics as the old p-part ECUs. "Designed" in previous sentence is meant only in the most general way.
 
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