10's on $5,000 ?

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Loggato said:
It took nearly 40 pages and you're just now getting the truck.. all because everyone is telling you that it's not possible!

I'm rooting for ya, bud! I'm fueled by people telling me "you can't do that!"
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^^^I feel the passion in this post ^^! Thanks, man! Our goal is still 10.9's, but I will state that the truck (weight and wind resistance) just made it more difficult. We will not be disappointed regardless. My son and I were up late last night discussing certain avenues. "Coin for Broke" would be a proper title... LOL
 
  • I will race a van early this summer, but you are correct, we scrapped the idea for the truck :)
What do you mean "we scrapped the idea for the truck"?
 
Jadaharabi said:
  • I will race a van early this summer, but you are correct, we scrapped the idea for the truck :)
What do you mean "we scrapped the idea for the truck"?
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My son-in-law and I were going buy a cheap van and for sillies and giggles, make a few passes and upgrades. Nothing serious, just funs. 10's for 5k? took it's place in money and parking lol. But i'm going to make a pass in my '89 van, you betcha!!!
 
Jadaharabi said:
  • I will race a van early this summer, but you are correct, we scrapped the idea for the truck :)
What do you mean "we scrapped the idea for the truck"?
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OK. It looks like you are saying that you will race the van but you scrapped the idea of racing the truck.
 
pittsburghracer said:
Look at it this way. If you gave 50% of the people here 5000 dollars to have just the drivetrain done and have it run a 10.99 it would be impossible for them. I think he bit off to much adding in the cost of buying and prepping a vehicle too instead of just saying building it and putting it in a 3000-3200 pound roller already done. All I can do is wish him luck NA.
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It's going to come down to one thing - "how light we get the truck" (and keep it happy on the street). We are driving this to and from the track, which is a hour each way.
 
I know that the goal you're shooting for probably can be done. I know of someone thats done it before. He built a very mean 360, dumped it into a 1/2 ton short bed, gutted the front end, had a homemade flat bed, and custom built a 4 link in back with a 8 3/4 and a sure grip. Dunno on timeslips.
 
318willrun said:
Fact checking Fake News LOL.
  • I doubt he is sincerely cheering for me :rolleyes:
  • I didn't post 13.2's, it was 13.3's here on FABO - just for the record :)
  • My best time slip is NOT 13.3's - it isn't 13's at all ! My life didn't start Sept 13th, of 2013 :p
  • I will race a van early this summer, but you are correct, we scrapped the idea for the truck :)
  • 13.3's to 11.8's - get it straight. Project is still on going, but I'm not posting about it. Just because your eyeballs don't get a picture or update doesn't mean the world stopped turning over here....
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It's funny you mention fake news...
I opened by saying I'm cheering for you to do it and I don't tell lies to make friends...
Your best time slip in an a body Mopar of your own "IS" 13.3... otherwise you would post it... I couldn't dream of a reason that would make sense that you wouldn't...
After all it's just a time slip... Not a bank account number...
Also when I see you respond I start laughing and going oh boy what next...
Get my facts straight! Lol... I do not have a lifetime to go through your thousands of post trying to get your facts straight...
You mean you're holding out updates on one project? LOL...
More words in my mouth to suit your conversation .. I never said your life began on September 13th 2013 LOL..
 
Dropping weight on those trucks will be tough.
Bumpers, fiberglass.
Loose inner fenders and tailgate.
Replace the bench with race buckets, the seat is actually has some weight to it.
And a glass hood.
Leave the steel fenders, they are reasonable light.
Remove heat/ac box and carpet/rubber mat.
After all that is out you may have shaved 300lbs.
 
j par said:
It's funny you mention fake news...

Your best time slip in an a body Mopar of your own "IS" 13.3... otherwise you would post it... ..
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LOL.... ^^^ :D
 
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318willrun said:
I put you on ignore yesterday because I figured you were drunk and on a roll. Yes, I had them clean up the thread. Please read and understand:
  • My build and I'm building it my way.
  • I don't care if it goes a best of 12.90
  • It's purely a fun project with my kids, I'm just sharing it here.
  • As Jpar stated, if you don't like it, don't click on it. That simple. I'll not change one thing or one goal on account of anyone, and that includes you.
  • Please read post 954.
IF yesterday is really who you are (you've been on FABO a month, so I don't know), easy as ignore forever. Makes no difference to me.
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I haven't posted here on the " racers forum as I have no time slips. Only rip roaring trips down a quiet open side road with my son and daughter. Some of us are rooting for you . Enjoy this project with your kids, the memories your creating is what it's all about, whether it's 13 or 10.99. Screw the nay sayers...
 
Dave 74 Dart said:
I haven't posted here on the " racers forum as I have no time slips. Only rip roaring trips down a quiet open side road with my son and daughter. Some of us are rooting for you . Enjoy this project with your kids, the memories your creating is what it's all about, whether it's 13 or 10.99. Screw the nay sayers...
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It's onward ! i know i have several here that are cheering for us, Thanks!
 
sireland67 said:
Dropping weight on those trucks will be tough.
Bumpers, fiberglass.
Loose inner fenders and tailgate.
Replace the bench with race buckets, the seat is actually has some weight to it.
And a glass hood.
Leave the steel fenders, they are reasonable light.
Remove heat/ac box and carpet/rubber mat.
After all that is out you may have shaved 300lbs.
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yeah, the weight and wind resistance isn't favorable, for sure. One of the first things we'll do is weigh it as soon as it's on the road.
 
While we build the "big motor", I'm going to do a "slap-happy" performance upgrade to the 318 that's in it, so we can have some fun in the meantime. Here is what were going to do to it with the parts I have laying around.
  • Magnum heads
  • SM intake
  • 4bbl
  • FM cam
  • hedman headers
And, of course, the diet.
 
Wallace says 500 hp moves 3600 lbs with a 29" tire and 4.11 gears crossing the line about 5700 rpms @ 10.81
 
318willrun said:
Wallace says 500 hp moves 3600 lbs with a 29" tire and 4.11 gears crossing the line about 5700 rpms @ 10.81
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Not that it matters really but I get>
60 Foot E.T. : 1.56
1/8 Mile E.T. : 7.10
1/8 Mile Trap Speed : 95.78
1/4 Mile E.T. : 11.25
1/4 Mile Trap Speed : 119
1/4 Mile Trap RPM : 5,677
big difference in ET
 
Hot Metal said:
Not that it matters really but I get>
60 Foot E.T. : 1.56
1/8 Mile E.T. : 7.10
1/8 Mile Trap Speed : 95.78
1/4 Mile E.T. : 11.25
1/4 Mile Trap Speed : 119
1/4 Mile Trap RPM : 5,677
big difference in ET
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I would take 11.25 with a smile in the truck :)
 
Anything faster than 11.5 must have a cage that must be tied to the frame so you will be adding weight if you get to that point. Other than the bumpers the truck is going to be difficult to drop weight compared with a car and no $$$ for glass parts and a large amount weight in the truck is in the frame. Your going to add a BB and 8 3/4 probably a larger radiator, I think your going to be closer to 4K than you think. Hell you can't get rid of full sized gas tank, every big HP 440 I've had got 3 to 5 mpg.....:)
 
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I know 11.49 needs a cage. That means I can go 10.99 once. lol. Seriously, I'm going to eat this elephant one step at a time. Too many unknowns… namely the deals I may find or come across. I mean, somebody in a bind might sell me a 500 hp 408 stroker for 2000, and that would change everything. But I'm not putting the carriage in a different county than the horse, so one step at a time. We'll put an approximately 300 - 325 hp small block in it and get the truck to work with that, and start to get things sorted out. Obviously, the small block will have nothing to do with the budget.
 
318willrun said:
I know 11.49 needs a cage. That means I can go 10.99 once. lol. Seriously, I'm going to eat this elephant one step at a time. Too many unknowns… namely the deals I may find or come across. I mean, somebody in a bind might sell me a 500 hp 408 stroker for 2000, and that would change everything. But I'm not putting the carriage in a different county than the horse, so one step at a time. We'll put an approximately 300 - 325 hp small block in it and get the truck to work with that, and start to get things sorted out. Obviously, the small block will have nothing to do with the budget.
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This could be fun, just running with what you have! Buy a decent converter for it and gears and run the hell out of it.
 
Walking around this in the snow today... lol... wheels in my head were turning. I was studying certain things and getting different ideas. I guess I've not really looked at a truck with a "sole-purposed" low ET before. Sure, I've owned many and "hopped" a few up. But the more I study this thing, the more opportunities I'm finding to look into. This is consuming the "hobby" part of my mind. LOL As soon as the weather clears up..... yeppers.. :D
 
318willrun said:
Walking around this in the snow today... lol... wheels in my head were turning. I was studying certain things and getting different ideas. I guess I've not really looked at a truck with a "sole-purposed" low ET before. Sure, I've owned many and "hopped" a few up. But the more I study this thing, the more opportunities I'm finding to look into. This is consuming the "hobby" part of my mind. LOL As soon as the weather clears up..... yeppers.. :D
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All the bitter cold and snow has left me some time to do some research, checking out options, and a lot of thinking. Getting the truck to work (optimizing) with the power supplied is more critical than working with a Duster. Excited to get started. I have a lot of ideas, and I'm sure some won't pan out but hopefully most will. Time will play a part, because the budget will force me to hunt for certain deals other than just "go buy it". Things are about to get in motion as the weather starts to turn towards spring. Honestly, I can't even get myself to think about my Dusters right now.
 
318willrun said:
All the bitter cold and snow has left me some time to do some research, checking out options, and a lot of thinking. Getting the truck to work (optimizing) with the power supplied is more critical than working with a Duster. Excited to get started. I have a lot of ideas, and I'm sure some won't pan out but hopefully most will. Time will play a part, because the budget will force me to hunt for certain deals other than just "go buy it". Things are about to get in motion as the weather starts to turn towards spring. Honestly, I can't even get myself to think about my Dusters right now.
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"Can't think about the dusters"??:( Guess I'll offer to drive the 8 hours to keep the juices flowing for ya if need be...:steering:
 
I say go with what you know and build a stroker small block. Starting over with a new engine family is starting from scratch in mopar world.
Pencil out the total cost of the biggest small block shortblock you can build and the cost of the 440/727 you need to come up with just to start.
The converter cost is the same as is shift kit and overhaul kit. Headers, manifolds, heads etc. you probably have plenty of small block parts if you have been racing for 30 years that you don't have for a big block.
Just like me racing small blocks, I would have to go all new parts because I have only big block parts.
400hp is no problem, 500+ hp with careful horse trading is doable.
If 500 hp doesn't get you to the tens who gives a rat's butt. It will give you a thirsty street motor that you won't be happy with.
All this talk of numbers to run and street driving to the track something is forgotten, just how dirty and nasty these motors are.
 
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