1972 Dart I picked up for a parts for myself

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I have a 72' currently, 4 total have passed through my hands as well as 2-71's and a 70', I am very curious about the one year 72' hood my myself.
By the way thanks for the heads-up on the $3600+ dollar "spares" stash for one of my cars.:thumbsup:
 
How about some of these. There is a six pack RR in the bunch. And you all want me to have bad feelings about a 72 4 door.

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So i just really want to thank you for making the cars and parts I own more Valuable.
Just one question, Why not part out the one you wrecked? Just another wreched piece of scrap metal, Right?
 
Because OP is real quick to scrap out what's left instead of waiting for people who need non reproduced pieces. I waited 4 years for everything to sell of the 74 dart, I dont have near the property size he does to keep a cadaver for parts people needed. But I kept it. Plus I did enquire about my needs from the OP while he was starting to cut the barracuda up. I needed the internal C pillar roof supports and trunk drip rails. Neither is reproduced, and it fell on deaf ears. Several weeks later he scrapped the car. As said earlier, woulda been nice to just graft in a set from another car since I cannot seem to find any out here, but I can and will fabricate my own pieces. Just sucks that I will have to do that now.

Yeah I get it we are all in this hobby to at least help one another out when they are looking for stuff you may have that they could use that you can maybe make a buck on and help the other person out.

If I took that 74, and just got the floorpan. Crossmember, engine and K frame and brakes and then ran the rest across the scales for scrap, that would make me a dick and rightfully so. I had people enquire about the weirdest stuff off the car. I took pix of what they needed, and removed and sent it. And kept it under a tarp until there was nothing left of it that anybody would want.
 
I already have 2 project cars, and a huge plateful of bills. I had tried to buy a 70 dart moredoor off a local little old lady. Car has not run in years. Is white with granny green interior. Needs everything mechanical gone through to make it run and be reliable. I was not looking as a parts car or making a list of individual pieces value, since my intent was to repair the mechanicals and daily drive it myself. Offered her $1,500 for it. Fair price. She said her daughter wanted it. Sitting on 4 flat tires had not been registered or inspected in almost 20 years. Oh well.

I needed some structural sheetmetal off a 68 notchback the OP had bought to cut up for the front clip. Enquired multiple times while he was tearing it apart, was told no problem. A few weeks later he told me he ran the rest of the carcass by his buddies place and his buddy scrapped it. I thought that was kinda shitty considering finding barracuda coupe specific non reproduced structural parts are really hard to find. I'm a good enough sheetmetal fabricator that I will make my own C pillar roof support sections to replace what was previous owner cut out, but it woulda been nice to have some I could have just surgically reattached.

I had a 74 moredoor I cut up that was completely shot and barely ran but was rust hole free except for the trunk pan. however I used a lot out of it to fix a 67 notch. Main floorpan, trans torsion bar crossmember, 318, K frame disc brakes. What I did not need sheetmetal wise or other partswise i cut apart carefully with spot weld cutters. 90% of it was used by myself or others on this site. This was not a cremepuff by any stretch of the imagination. A lot of miles and beat to death. Point is it took me almost 4 years to get rid of everything I surgically dissassembled from the 74, even the roof skin found a home to replace a rotted roof skin that had a vinyl on it. There were a bunch of structural parts left on that notchback the OP had that could have been used by other people on other cars to repair them. He was quick to scrap it, even after I enquired about these structural pieces I needed. With structural metal it's a waiting game a lot of the time until somebody needs what you have.

I do understand the OPs reasoning behind this, however theres hoods, heater boxes and other pieces out there that can be had pretty cheaply instead of parting out a clean low mileage starter car for someone getting into the hobby. Maybe the seller didnt advertise it in all the right places. Hemmings motor news would be a start. I dont know exactly what the difference is between a 70-72 dart hood. They all look the same to me. I'm using a 74 dart hood and hinges on my sons 69 barracuda. Looks the same as a 69 to me.

I have enquired about other parts from the OP before. Sometimes getting sorely answers like come out here to get what you need, to I am not shipping anything. Not possible for me to go physically look at stuff he's got, I am 1,900 miles from the OPs location. I have personally dealt with people wanting stuff then they back out for whatever reason. I shrug my shoulders and sell it to the next guy looking at the bright side that it's already boxed up.

The hood is one year only due to it has the access holes for a snorkel scoop and the attacment holes are part of the frame. Not the slider attachment plates that plaque the 70-71 hoods with break out . I sold several parts at Carlisle last year and my objective for the weekend was to find a nice 72 hood. I sold mine thinking exactly what some of you said. "I'm close to Carlisle I grab one out there". There was not one hood for a 72 and not one nice hood for any 70-72. Sure there was one 70 hood with scoops for $1200. and the hood had issues. There alway bent down in the front , Rotted around the seams. Inner has holes. Outer has bad surface rust behind inner. Seller brings them to show and stands them on their rear points and ruins the corners. Instead of standing them up on there sides. And sellers think they are gold.

I have been doing this for years . Do you think I would pay $2000 for a car for a hood if If I could find one. And as far as Fiberglass I had a AAR and I gave it to dave friend Jim for $100 . They are not what they are led up to be for a replacement Fitting is poor and the hood trim doesn't fasten properly.

None of you will get my collection when I am gone. I have a son that is worse then I am and several friends that frequent my place. When I go they won't be on this site. They all tell me I am a fool fo listening to some of the Bullshit on here. But there are some good guys that come here that I help with what they need.

This is not a buisness or a hobby . Its a passion. I really like 71 340 Dusters and Demons the rest are just pages in the book of my life. For god sake I just stripped a 70 340 4spd Duster with AC. Do you think this dart means anything to me but a parts car. The duster and Valiant are sitting where Todd just parked the Dart. We call it death doner row. Sort of like that part on your license that say when you die your body goes to science to keep someone else alive. Hundreds have been in this area including some . R/T's GTX's RR's Superbees . Yes even sixpack car years ago. So I do not have feelings for some rotted beyond repair or 4 door a bodies.

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You DO realize that people like you are the reason there's no more hoods, right? Next you'll be looking for a hood with no holes in it, because those are all gone, too.

And this is the first I EVER heard about '72 hoods being different. I have two. Maybe someone with a '71 can post pics so we can get to the bottom of this.
 
So i just really want to thank you for making the cars and parts I own more Valuable.
Just one question, Why not part out the one you wrecked? Just another wreched piece of scrap metal, Right?

Not much left to take off of it smarty. You have to think with your dipstick Jimmy.



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As far as you know does the cluster work and how much for it?
As per the OP, this is not a sales thread so don't ask. All offers to buy parts will be deleted. When the seller is ready to sell parts he will start a proper sale thread.
 
As per the OP, this is not a sales thread so don't ask. All offers to buy parts will be deleted. When the seller is ready to sell parts he will start a proper sale thread.

My mistake I obviously didn't fully read the post. I seen the price list of parts and got excited.
 
I am trying really hard not to wish that your sawzall shorts out at the breaker and burns your shop down.
I am NOT taking Granpamofarts side BUT that is a bit TOO harsh, Be pissed off but NEVER wish harm on someone in the same hobby as yourself.
 
Guess the OP snatched this one up.

[FOR SALE] - 70 Dart Hood

Oh, NVM, it has a spot of rust on it.
Just look at it. Not worth my time. Its a $100 hood. And you are right rusted pretty good. When ever you see a hood standing on its back whether on a pallet or not. You know the corners are bent. Blow the picture up . Some one who post a picture of the hood on its side deserves a good look. I use to put foam on the corners until some guy told me just put them on there sides. You learn something new every day.
 
I am NOT taking Granpamofarts side BUT that is a bit TOO harsh, Be pissed off but NEVER wish harm on someone in the same hobby as yourself.
I agree, we can agree to disagree, but wishing harm like that to somebody else is unacceptable
 
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I am trying really hard not to wish that your sawzall shorts out at the breaker and burns your shop down.
I lost a Nephew in a fire . I jumped from the second floor. It wasn't a good experience. If you were in front of me. You my friend would be on your way to the Hospital. You are an *** Hole for saying something like that.
 
So if the 72 has specific holes in the structure to support a specific scoop, why cant those holes be added to a 70 or 71 hood structure with a hole saw??

The 74 dart hood I am using on my sons 69 does not have the folds stamped into the inner structure like the late 74-76 models did. Unless you look at the hood hinges being slotted you would never know.

In my neck of the woods, you use and modify what you can find. Junkyards are full of trucks. Hardly any cars. This is truck country, old cars pretty much non existant, or if in the boneyards, they are so picked over theres nothing left. In my case if I needed a 72 hood but found a 70 or 71 hood and really needed a 72 hood, I would modify it to "make it" into a 72 hood. Just like i needed a 69 cuda hood, and found that a 73-76 dart hood would work. Got lucky my boneyard had a 74 struck hard in the rear with everything shoved into the back window. $100 it was mine. Most people would never know the difference. If I had the 69 notch while I had the 74 dart parts car I would have kept the hood and hinges for it. Somebody else needed it.
 
I am NOT taking Granpamofarts side BUT that is a bit TOO harsh, Be pissed off but NEVER wish harm on someone in the same hobby as yourself.

I agree, we can agree to disagree, but wishing harm like that to them is unacceptable


Read it again, folks.

I am trying really hard not to wish that your sawzall shorts out at the breaker and burns your shop down.

My inclination is to wish that. I'm fighting it.

If you were in front of me. You my friend would be on your way to the Hospital.

That sounds like a threat to me. I'll hold further comment until you wreck another fine car.
 
So if the 72 has specific holes in the structure to support a specific scoop, why cant those holes be added to a 70 or 71 hood structure with a hole saw??

The 74 dart hood I am using on my sons 69 does not have the folds stamped into the inner structure like the late 74-76 models did. Unless you look at the hood hinges being slotted you would never know.

In my neck of the woods, you use and modify what you can find. Junkyards are full of trucks. Hardly any cars. So in my case if I needed a 72 hood but found a 70 or 71 hood and really needed a 72 hood, I would "make it" into a 72 hood. Just like i needed a 69 cuda hood, and found that a 73-76 dart hood would work. Got lucky my boneyard had a 74 struck hard in the rear with everything shoved into the back window. $100 it was mine. Most people would never know the difference.
Matt there are different levels of talent and yours appear to be of a better level than most, I have seen your posts and it shows.:thumbsup:
 
A lot of them went to the junkyards in this very condition back then and were mercilessly parted and then crushed.
Many people back then and even today consider 4 doors as parts cars automatically.
And many went to the crusher without being parted. They were just not wanted and taking up space. I'm sure much more desirable cars were crushed with loads of parts still on that some would give a nut for today. LOL
That was then, this is now. Yeh it's a shame to cut it up. But I ain't offering to buy it whole and unless anyone else is...It's Steve's car to do with as he pleases. He bought it fair to use for his purpose. I get what some are saying about his posts. He put some stuff up before that seemed a little spiteful/'in your face'. Probably cause it was. People were giving him a runaround and pissing him off. It's not like the parts fairy dropped it all at his door. He worked to accumulate it. If he hadn't, no doubt much would have already been 'lost'. Everyone likes a nice T-bone -somebody's gotta cut up the cow.
 
Matt there are different levels of talent and yours appear to be of a better level than most, I have seen your posts and it shows.:thumbsup:
I appreciate that. Thank you. The reality is, I dont have real easy access to a lot of this stuff and have to fabricate what I need. It's out of necessity. This 69 is cut up so badly and yet I want to save it. Yeah it was a roller somebody hack minitubbed with a torch and stuck pop riveted tubs in. I payed $300 for it off another fabo member. It was only a 318 notch with buckets and console, 4 wheel drums, manual steering no A/C. Nothing of any real value, yet I dont have the heart to part it. Bringing it back from the dead. The latest will be making my own sections of rear framerail to remove the spring relocation that is hacked in, and fabricating the rear emergency brake bracket that was cut off and discarded when it was made into a race car. Thank God I have my 67 notch to template stuff off of. As well as roof support pix and a really rusty roof support another member sent me to template off of to make those pieces out of sheet stock.

This "was" someone's parts car. Not anymore. Slowly unfucking this thing. Pic #2 is the roof supports that were torched out of the way in this thing to make space for the minitubs they put in.

Temp installed transition pan to check fitment came from a stripped out 71 scamp in my boneyard. Texas law they wont sell you a complete car out of the wrecking yard. Only half of one. Another fabo member and myself went halvsies on the back half of this car he got the body sheetmetal, I got the transition pan and inner wheelhouses. The metal on this scamp was so nice it was a shame it was even in the boneyard. The difference is we didnt buy a clean one to cut up, we lucked onto a boneyard scamp that the state says pick which half you want, you dont get the whole car.

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The dark green hood is a 70 and the Sassy one is the original on my 72 which I installed the scoop. The 70 doesn't have all the access holes.

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I appreciate that. Thank you. The reality is, I dont have real easy access to a lot of this stuff and have to fabricate what I need. It's out of necessity. This 69 is so cut up so badly and yet I want to save it. Yeah it was a roller somebody hack minitubbed with a torch and stuck pop riveted tubs in. I payed $300 for it off another fabo member. It was only a 318 notch with buckets and console, 4 wheel drums, manual steering no A/C. Nothing of any real value, yet I dont have the heart to part it. Bringing it back from the dead. The latest will be making my own sections of rear framerail to remove the spring relocation that is hacked in, and fabricating the rear emergency brake bracket that was cut off and discarded when it was made into a race car. Thank God I have my 67 notch to template stuff off of. As well as roof support pix and a really rusty roof support another member sent me to template off of to make those pieces out of sheet stock.

This "was" someone's parts car. Not anymore. Slowly unfucking this thing. Pic #2 is the roof supports that were torched out of the way in this thing to make space for the minitubs they put in.

Temp installed transition pan to check fitment came from a stripped out 71 scamp in my boneyard. Texas law they wont sell you a complete car out of the wrecking yard. Only half of one. Another fabo member and myself went halvsies on the back half of this car he got the body sheetmetal, I got the transition pan and inner wheelhouses. The metal on this scamp was so nice it was a shame it was even in the boneyard. The difference is we didnt buy a clean one to cut up, we lucked onto a boneyard scamp that the state says pick which half you want, you dont get the whole car.

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How you can do that without a driveway full of parts cars is beyond me. Respect!

I'd have the one I learned how to cut apart, the one I cut apart, the one to replace the parts I ruined learning how to put it back together, and the one I finally got back right.
 
The dark green hood is a 70 and the Sassy one is the original on my 72 which I installed the scoop. The 70 doesn't have all the access holes.

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So you template off the hood that has the holes and add them to the hood that doesnt. This really isnt rocket science, it's a paper template, a 6 inch scale, and a hole saw. I have used cruder methods to template out different ways to repair aircraft. No joke.
 
The dark green hood is a 70 and the Sassy one is the original on my 72 which I installed the scoop. The 70 doesn't have all the access holes.

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Wait.

We're talking about the difference between.....drilling some holes.......and drilling a few more holes.

That's what this is about? Sounds hard. I better destroy a whole car for a one-year only hood that....Imma drill holes in, cuz it already has extra holes in it. :realcrazy:
 
How you can do that without a driveway full of parts cars is beyond me. Respect!

I'd have the one I learned how to cut apart, the one I cut apart, the one to replace the parts I ruined learning how to put it back together, and the one I finally got back right.

It's called zoning laws lol. Plus I have studied this car for quite awhile until I took the tubs out, and got lucky they only crudely beat the outboard framerail flanges down instead of cutting them off. Ya sure theres still repairs to do on the rails, however the plan is to leave the quarter skins intact to locate the wheel houses, and weld them in along with the transition pan and rear seat bracing. Once that's all welded in, and tacked to the crappy quarters in a few spots as a jig of sorts, I will pull the valance, and remainder of the trunk pan, and replace the trunk pan, drops and valance. Once that's intact to hold the back end up, I will cut the quarter skins off and replace them. I have been thinking multiple ways of disassembly and reassembly in my head, until I came up with this. Now working out in my head how to shore up the framerails to cut out the relocation boxes and fab up replacement rail sections to fit back in there. A lifetime of aviation sheetmetal fabrication and repair experience is what prepared me for what I am able to do.
 
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