Cam advance question.

Sorta right and sorta not. "Not all" camshaft grinders use 4*. Also, "some" cam grinders won't tell you what they "grind in". Lastly, I never, ever include the "supposed" ground in advance in anything I do, be it purchasing parts, or degreeing it in. I use the degree wheel for that. Even cam cards do not take the "ground in" advance into consideration, I don't believe. Noe of them I have ever degreed in seemed to anyway.
I’ll just say in my dealings....The 4 degrees advance seems to be pretty common these days from what I’ve encountered. Isky does on their shelf grinds and on one custom I’ve ordered, on another custom from them I asked not to. Both Lunati Voodoos recently bought were, and the Bullet custom I spec’d they mentioned they could advance it for me, I said no. But yeah, degree to verify regardless.