Sacramento County ban on home “major auto repair”
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greymouser7
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In Texas you can shoot the dog AND the person invading your property. It’s a few hundred yards back to my house from the road, and more than that distance from my gate to my neighbors gate-closer as the crows fly and the dogs cut.
I can shoot them, just last night they tore into a trash can and spread trash in the yard.
Still not up to me killing their dogs. They have kids, kids and their love for the dogs is innocent-not worth hurting their love, even if the adults are negligent. I can put a note in the neighbors mail box threatening gun fire or a trip to the pound-which I will probably do. As long as my wife, kid and tools are safe, I’m good.
Just some bumps in the road so far.
SLOPAR72
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Know all too well about the dog situation. Had one of my clown neighbors PB's attach my lab a few years back. Luckily I was home to handle it. And that I did!
Be safe with those kids. Unless you know the dogs you don't know them.....
JW
Be safe with those kids. Unless you know the dogs you don't know them.....
JW
jos51700
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For me personally, I see little difference between this and the formation of your average lynch mob. Just my opinion.
As far as code enforcement, allow me to relate a personal story.
In 2015, in Kansas City, I got pulled over outside Kansas City, for failing to signal a turn. The officer informed me that I had Kansas City warrant for my arrest, but because all of Kansas city PD was working the world series and wouldn't pick me up until the next day, he was letting me go. Nice guy.
Also, the first time I've EVER had a run in with law enforcement beyond a traffic ticket. I was shocked.
Why a warrant? The previous February, some one broke a window in my rental house in KC. I put up the exact same piece of plywood that the city had on that window before I bought the house and rehabbed it.
The city gave me a code violation for peeling paint on that plywood. In February. When I pointed out that you can't paint when it's below freezing, they gave me a six month extension. I got a warm weekend and painted it with a couple weeks (knowing I would replace the window within a month. I notified code enforcement and they said it was all good.
They didn't file their paperwork, and -> I <- got a warrant for peeling paint.
That is FUCKED UP. What about the little old lady that can't afford to paint her house? I almost got ARRESTED, which could have cost me my job, caused me to spend hundreds of dollars to get my car out of impound, and required a lawyer to make even remotely right, all at my expense. And the city liability in the issue? ZERO.
That is NOT how this country it's designed and bound by the constitution to work. No due process. No innocent until proven guilty, and certainly no accountability for the tyrants that enacted this crap.
There wasn't a problem until they created one, and then held me accountable for solving it, even after I jumped through every hoop they had.
It's a solution in search of a problem. Just so some bureaucrat can justify their own existence.
So now my attitude is thus:
If I can't close the garage door at the end of the day and hide all signs of my work, it's probably not a project I should be doing at home.
Jeff
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greymouser7
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Amen!!!!!
I have an overhead crane in my home shop. Wonder what the code enforcement guy would do about that?
Hemioutlaw
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Andy's got it going on fer sure.....As Mr. Rogers used to say..."Won't ya be my neighbor" Lol
Darnells Garage
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The question isn't wether you can hide your work or close your garage door at the end of the day. It's wether you can do it at all.
It's great that you guys that have a "shop" garage, building, space, to do work, store, anything related to automobile work, are quite proud of what you have, and more power to you.
More power to you if you have the income, and $$$$$$ to be wealthy enough to have something like that.
Then something like that is the way it should be.
Keeping your stuff out of the way, in your pursuit of life liberty and happiness that doesn't infringe on anybody else's, life liberty and happiness.
Behind closed in fences, in the garage, pole barn, to keep your hobby in the proper environment.
I don't do any major repairs in my home shop, just minor stuff. It is minor since I know how to do it. Major would be something I didn't know how to do or have tools for. This Duster project was a minor repair for example.
You should invite him underneath it! Maybe for a closer inspection.
Hey guys, some of you folks just don't seem to get it at all, now do you.
If those individuals put that smashed car in the garage at 1:00 in the morning, and left it inside, to work on it, out of sight, out of mind, nowhere to be seen, none of this would have ever been started in the first place, by a neighbor, or code enforcement.
Dumb enough to leave it out in the open, for everyone to see, is just plain stupid.
But those dumb bells, didn't even think of that.
Out of sight, out of mind, sure would apply.
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That "shop" is ten times bigger than the places that i worked in when i was a wrenching, professional auto mechanic, earning my living, on top of this planet earth.
A few gas station, 3 bay buildings, and then others that were in industrial, wear house type of buildings with lots of bays and inside space.
I apologize if you have misunderstood my post. It was aimed at AndyF who I think understands my humor. On another note I had a neighbor who became such a pain in the azz my wife and I dreaded coming home from work and eventually moved. U don't have time for the whole story but they tried to sue us 7 times because they were deadbeats and we made a better living than them.
Well I am glad I am out in the county here in a county that thinks the kinda hobby I have is cool. This kinda thing will never happen here......at least not in my lifetime.
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Darnells Garage
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People think that this is just a California problem for now! The bad news is what works for California big brother is being quickly adopted by other states politicians. Don't say never.! Stay alert.
Darnells Garage
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Nice shop!
In California,commercial or even private warehouse,shop space is at a premium.
9 out of 10 spaces are being converted to pot growing industry operations. Pay a growing permit fee
,promise to collect and pay government sales tax and
your good. Provide a narcotic to poison the minds of the youth. Now take the same space and work on some classic cars and your in trouble.!!!!
In California,commercial or even private warehouse,shop space is at a premium.
9 out of 10 spaces are being converted to pot growing industry operations. Pay a growing permit fee
,promise to collect and pay government sales tax and
your good. Provide a narcotic to poison the minds of the youth. Now take the same space and work on some classic cars and your in trouble.!!!!
I quit reading at page 3 and haven't read the ordinance at issue because why? I don't live in Cali.
That said, I am house-hunting and I can tell you that, going into a neighborhood to view a potential candidate, if there are wrecked cars out in view up and down the street, I'm canceling my showing. In fact, it is much easier than that with the advent of google earth or any other satellite imaging site.
If enough people do like I do, then that house sits, unsold, for much longer until the owners end up lowering the price to move it. This is one way how property values are affected by the issue at hand. If they lower the price enough, it will likely become occupied by even more "hobbyists and hoarders" as there is, most definitely, a socio-economic class thereby associated.
My neighborhood, for the record, is all 500-800K homes. (Forgive me for not apologizing for this.) My '69 has made me, pretty much, the "redneck" in this community of, primarily, over-60s. Due to working on one big project (inside my garage) I had to park the fish outside for a spell during which time it came under fire by the HOA. I explained that my garage was temporarily unusable and offered to cover the car with a tan-colored (we are out in the desert southwest) cover. This solution was accepted and, for 70 dollars, everyone was happy. Of course I did not pile loose parts up all over and did not allow weeds to grow all around it. Keeping that in check was my responsibility and I did this out of respect for my neighbors. They didn't get pissy, I didn't get pissy. No calls were ever made to any authorities. We worked it out and when my "other" project was done, the fish got rolled back inside.
It can be done.
That said, I am house-hunting and I can tell you that, going into a neighborhood to view a potential candidate, if there are wrecked cars out in view up and down the street, I'm canceling my showing. In fact, it is much easier than that with the advent of google earth or any other satellite imaging site.
If enough people do like I do, then that house sits, unsold, for much longer until the owners end up lowering the price to move it. This is one way how property values are affected by the issue at hand. If they lower the price enough, it will likely become occupied by even more "hobbyists and hoarders" as there is, most definitely, a socio-economic class thereby associated.
My neighborhood, for the record, is all 500-800K homes. (Forgive me for not apologizing for this.) My '69 has made me, pretty much, the "redneck" in this community of, primarily, over-60s. Due to working on one big project (inside my garage) I had to park the fish outside for a spell during which time it came under fire by the HOA. I explained that my garage was temporarily unusable and offered to cover the car with a tan-colored (we are out in the desert southwest) cover. This solution was accepted and, for 70 dollars, everyone was happy. Of course I did not pile loose parts up all over and did not allow weeds to grow all around it. Keeping that in check was my responsibility and I did this out of respect for my neighbors. They didn't get pissy, I didn't get pissy. No calls were ever made to any authorities. We worked it out and when my "other" project was done, the fish got rolled back inside.
It can be done.
Like clicking "disagree" without making a counterpoint or even providing some substance?
So here we see you have your own set of criteria. Curious. Why would you take a dump on someone else's freedoms? Who are you to say how many visitors are too many? Maybe that person can't afford trash service or suffered an injury that has them too laid up to manage their rubbish? I'm sorry but the hypocrisy in your post is too blatant to ignore.
Look, man...everyone has an excuse and life always happens. Neither gives you or anyone else a free pass to hassle the general public. It's like when you leave late for work and the only way to get there on time is to drive 30 over the speed limit. That makes you a menace and wrong.
Bulldozer
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that's exactly what you did. the driveby red x without an explanation. talk about hypocrisy. I have neighbors that are exactly that... crackheads with constant traffic all day... all night. **** piled up to every edge of the property lines. I have walked over and had those conversations with them. guess what? they cleaned their shithole up. I didn't have to call the yard police. traffic in and out of that crack house has decreased substantially. I don't know why you decide to pick an argument with me , but I'm not a cop caller. the rest of us on our street handle **** like that ourselves. we don't have to go running to the phone to handle it .
Darnells Garage
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Once,that call is made it usually goes something like this!
Busy body calls on OP weed abatement about tall unkept weeds.
OP says that that the fence is to tall and built without permit. Pot farm is discovered. Pot farmer then calls on busy body for their un permitted house addition.
What they all have in common is what about the guy with all the old cars! Corrections are made,fines paid REPEAT! Crack house, is untouchable and do whatever they want.
Reminds me of this twilight zone episode.
Busy body calls on OP weed abatement about tall unkept weeds.
OP says that that the fence is to tall and built without permit. Pot farm is discovered. Pot farmer then calls on busy body for their un permitted house addition.
What they all have in common is what about the guy with all the old cars! Corrections are made,fines paid REPEAT! Crack house, is untouchable and do whatever they want.
Reminds me of this twilight zone episode.
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6PakBee
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Thank God I now have a shop to work in but it wasn't always like that. When I was a renter and worked on cars in the driveway, out of sight, out of mind was a Godsend. I'd keep the project under a car cover and remove it when I was working on it. When I finished for the day, the car cover went back on. Never had a problem with anyone.
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