I'm not necessarily "slow" at a light, and now realize, that when younger, "jumped" a few times when I might have looked. Before I tore down the 67 Dart, I was at a left turn, and the arrow came on. I wasn't there very long about 1 1/2 seconds, LOL, and the guy behind me was on the horn. I just sat there, and watched a guy come from my right and run my "green" light.................... I hope the dumb SOB felt like ****