Replacement tractor

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jaws said:
I agree, but, I doubt a Case or a John Deer from today will be around in 70 years ether. Just not built to the same standards.
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Plus getting parts for the original hydraulics/ hydro drives will be impossible. That Oliver/ White I pictured above? was already difficult around 2000. It was supposed to have been rebuilt, it's a sleeved engine. Turns out someone just re-ringed it used old pistons and sleeves, and they had lots of taper and wear. And they did not "ream the ridge." Damn thing broke the top rings and ring lands, and I had to buy new sleeves and pistons. They were hard to come by, I'd hate to try that again.
 
jaws said:
I agree, but, I doubt a Case or a John Deer from today will be around in 70 years ether. Just not built to the same standards.
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Kubota's reputation is solid. There are some plastic parts (dash, grille) as all have, nothing that will impact lifespan.
I think mechanically they are as sound as anything from the past. And way ahead with functionality.
 
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41 ford 9n. Never let me down
 
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Compact tractors Kubota or Deere, most models use the same engines Yanmar . Get a compact that comes with a bucket, PTO shaft, and at least a category #1 three point hitch. Anything else is just a draw bar tractor, OK if you just want to pull wagons around...…

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67Dart273 said:
Sorry LOLOL Just cannot resist

Gramps and Dad with the Model A "Doodle Bug". Added a series transmission, Diamond T or IHC? rear axle This was around 46-50, I may not have been born yet (48). Gramps would have been around 50 (born 1900) so way younger here than I am now. Dad would have been ? early-mid 20's

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Years later, Gramps and Gramma with the mower. Dad later used this same mower on the place, behind the "Farmall Regular. After we moved to the place, Dad built a small blade for the Doodle Bug. The thing made a lot of noise and actually did very little LOL

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Next the home made "blue tractor" made from a junk power unit off an early grader. 36-ish Ford front end (cable brakes) and home made plow and winch lift using a steering box. That same blade would be on more tractors. This thing had a flattie six and blew a rod, ending it's "career." Dad used to say "it took the whole back forty" to turn it around. Original snapshot says 1959. This is my little brother and "formerly known as my sister" I would have been 11
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The Farmall Regular bought when I was maybe ? 12, from my Great Uncles. Dad added a flywheel between the bell and trans, and starter, gen, lights, and belt driven hydraulics, the same blade and arms from a bove graced it for many years. Here it's on the trailer, sold after Dad died. I DROVE it onto the trailer, around ??03 I think. You can just see the buzz saw Dad built behind it. The big trangulated channel and huge steel tube under the belly, was for the arms of the plow, same one as off the blue tractor.

You had to be a "man" to operate this thing. Some of our fields were rough, and if you hit a ditch at angle, the front end would take the wheel away. Both Dad and I suffered injuries "losing" the wheel. I used to "skootch" up and clamp my thighs around the wheel, but once it banged my elbow when it got away.

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Near the time Dad died, he bought this Oliver because it had power steering. He adapted the same old blade, now much the worse for wear, to the hoist. That's me about 2000 after Dad died, plowing out Mom. I would have been about 52. This was a terrible tractor. Not heavy enough in the rear for the front bucket, it had fluid filled tires, and I welded up a frame to support several sections of old sidewalk, stacked like books on a shelf. It was an "industrial" tractor and geared WAY too fast

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I always love the pictures of that old "thing" your dad made. lol
 
Dicer said:
Compact tractors Kubota or Deere, most models use the same engines Yanmar . Get a compact that comes with a bucket, PTO shaft, and at least a category #1 three point hitch. Anything else is just a draw bar tractor, OK if you just want to pull wagons around...…

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Nice rig there, good to see everyone happy.
 
RustyRatRod said:
I always love the pictures of that old "thing" your dad made. lol
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This is the type of motor grader that "thing" was born of. Dad bought it from some junk yard or auction. had it delivered via tow truck. I still vaguely remember coming home from school and "there it was" just the belly pan/ engine/ trans axle and two of the four tires.

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Thanks, everyone was in good spirits, tractor was just back off the trailer. Its first task was to level the drive way, dog barking all the time the tractor was moving...…..lol
 
Dicer said:
Compact tractors Kubota or Deere, most models use the same engines Yanmar . Get a compact that comes with a bucket, PTO shaft, and at least a category #1 three point hitch. Anything else is just a draw bar tractor, OK if you just want to pull wagons around...…

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Like I said, need a big enough loader to lift a #1200 pound bail of hay. Also need remotes in the back for drill, so yes it will have a three point.
 
I'd recommend 4wd unless you drive on level ground only.
 
I have had a gray market tractor, a couple of Kubotas, and my current 60 horse Case 585. One factor to think about it where to get parts. Just about every town in the US has a Kubota dealer. Even the older models will be something the dealers can get parts for - just might not be in stock. Sometimes it is helpful to get the dealer to cross reference part numbers and identify things.

The gray market stuff is hard to get parts for - but not impossible. They are usually copies of older Ford units.

My 30+ year old Case IH has some parts that are harder to get, but not impossible. I did have to completely rewire it though. All tractors and machinery have their drawbacks and advantages. Buy the best you can afford. The other thing that is a struggle for some is that a "do-all" machine is a compromise at a lot of stuff. I now have multiple machines.

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I agree on parts, Kubota is 30 min away, Massey Ferguson is 30 min away. the two front runners so far. John Deer and New Holland are both 15 min away, but priced themselves out. Kubota is the only one without remotes. Everything I'm looking at is 4wd.
 
67Dart273 said:
Near the time Dad died, he bought this Oliver because it had power steering. He adapted the same old blade, now much the worse for wear, to the hoist. That's me about 2000 after Dad died, plowing out Mom. I would have been about 52. This was a terrible tractor. Not heavy enough in the rear for the front bucket, it had fluid filled tires, and I welded up a frame to support several sections of old sidewalk, stacked like books on a shelf. It was an "industrial" tractor and geared WAY too fast

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Really enjoyed your family history tractor post. But just to clarify, a "White Industrial" tractor is NOT the same as an "Oliver". Yes, White purchased Oliver and discontinued the Oliver brand replaced with the White brand, but they where NOT the same thereafter. An old Oliver tractor is still a good workhorse, a White, not so much. JMHO.
 
My buddy started out working for his uncle's John Deere dealership. He worked for two other John Deere dealerships after his uncle retired. He sold equipment and parts for years. If you ask him today, he'll tell you to buy a Kubota.
 
'73red-duster said:
My buddy started out working for his uncle's John Deere dealership. He worked for two other John Deere dealerships after his uncle retired. He sold equipment and parts for years. If you ask him today, he'll tell you to buy a Kubota.
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Kubota Diesel engines are top notch, last a long time.
 
Here again it depends upon the use of the tractor . I , too , wanted to buy an American made tractor . So I bought a New Holland 2210 . WRONG , they're all made overseas with the exception of the 45 h.p. and larger . If you live in the north , 4wd is your friend , and , If you have snow a bucket is necessary . I suggest getting the biggest tractor you need and add 10% to the horsepower rating . After my research , I'm convinced MASSEY-Fergerson is the best bang for the buck 40-50 h.p. , 4x4 . If you're gonna beat the crap out of it , any tractor will do .
 
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My grey market pos lol. Handiest thing on the place. 17hp Kubota. I too am looking for 40hp or larger tractor. Everything new or newish these days will be import.
 
SIX225 said:
Interesting article. Farmers Fight John Deere Over Who Gets to Fix an $800,000 Tractor
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Yup and this could be coming for cars and trucks someday. There was a big "dog in the manger" fight a few years back over obsolete Motorola radios. The "hams" (radio amateurs) like me use obsolete radios for repeater, link, and other remote equipment. The older Motorolas were programmed with various chips, EPROMS and variances on those. Moto did not like guys "hacking" the firmware to get the things into the ham bands. Bear in mind these radios were USELESS except maybe a medium sized town "dogcatcher squad."
 
Back in Time said:
I had the 39 9N pictured in my profile. Moved a ton of snow and cut a lot of grass with it.
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I remember when I got my 8N, I do like I do when I get a new vehicle of any kind. Try to find out all I can. I remember reading a statistic that between all of the N series tractors, something over 90% of them were still running. That is just a crazy number if it's true.
 
Went with the Massey Ferguson. Should be ready to pick up Wednesday.
 
Picked it up today, great place to work with. Same family owners since 1946.

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