Timing Chain Cover Seal

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DentalDart

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I got an original timing chain cover with the timing tab on the passenger side.

I got a new timing chain cover seal (crankshaft seal) but the new seal doesn't look the same as the old. It fits but doesn't have the inside edge. I'm assuming it's fine without it but I wanted to double check before I hit it in.

Do I need to put grease or anything on the inside of the seal like i had to with the wheel bearings?

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The "new seal" will fit fine, it's "multi fit" style replaces the style U have and will work in the "installed from the front" type cover also. Yes, put grease on the lip and spring of the seal.
 
Max1196 said:
The "new seal" will fit fine, it's "multi fit" style replaces the style U have and will work in the "installed from the front" type cover also. Yes, put grease on the lip and spring of the seal.
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Awesome, luckily this one works, the other one we had was to small.

Just a thin coat of grease? Or a nice thicker coat?
 
mopowers said:
Do you guys coat the outside with anything like a thin layer of rtv?
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Right now nothing is on it, but I'm going to use a nice line of RTV blue as I was advised to use. Debating right now if I want to drop the oil pan or not... I just dont want to have to go get another gasket for it...
 
I use a light coat of Permatex non hardening aviation sealer on the housing. Brush in the little bottle type.
 
DentalDart said:
Right now nothing is on it, but I'm going to use a nice line of RTV blue as I was advised to use. Debating right now if I want to drop the oil pan or not... I just dont want to have to go get another gasket for it...
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I'm pretty sure they sell the little oil pan gasket pieces for a timing chain swap. I've used those with great success.
 
I'll be using the RTV. Thanks again for all of the replies, I would post pictures of it all put together but I'm still painting everything lol.
 
Dana67Dart said:
Are you saying you are going to use RTV instead of the oil pan to timing cover seal?
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I'll be using RTV blue for bolting everything back together, instead of gaskets.

But for the timing cover gasket I'll be using the red one in the pictures above with a little bit of grease on the back side.

Edit - I think I found the confusion. On the outside of the crank gasket seal/timing cover seal I will not be using RTV, I'll use a little oil to help lubricate it going it. Lube always helps things slide into tight spots.

I'll only be using rtv as my engine gaskets
 
Are you familiar with RTV propped application? Apply allow to sit for a few minutes tighten slightly allow more time. Torque to spec

Give or take.
Personally no gasket is a mistake IMHO, gaskets space parts the appropriate distance from each other, the parts your putting together were designed to have gaskets.
Just my opinion
 
DentalDart said:
I'll be using RTV blue for bolting everything back together, instead of gaskets.

But for the timing cover gasket I'll be using the red one in the pictures above with a little bit of grease on the back side.

Edit - I think I found the confusion. On the outside of the crank gasket seal/timing cover seal I will not be using RTV, I'll use a little oil to help lubricate it going it. Lube always helps things slide into tight spots.

I'll only be using rtv as my engine gaskets
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First, why would you use BLUE? that crap stands out like a sore thumb when you bolt parts together. Secondly, why use grease on the circumference of a seal? Grease is not a sealer. You know what that red stuff is on the outside of the seal? It's high temp silicone RTV. They coat it from the factory. But, it's so old and dried out from sitting on the shelf, that's why I recommend a light coat. It does two things. First, it renews the coat that was there and secondly, it acts as a lubricant when installing, since it's fresh and wet. The seal needs a sealant there on the outside. The fresh RTV seals and lubricates. It's a win/win.



Lastly, use black silicone. Shows up a lot less.
 
Dana67Dart said:
Are you familiar with RTV propped application? Apply allow to sit for a few minutes tighten slightly allow more time. Torque to spec

Give or take.
Personally no gasket is a mistake IMHO, gaskets space parts the appropriate distance from each other, the parts your putting together were designed to have gaskets.
Just my opinion
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Exactly. No way would I use RTV only on an oil pan or timing cover. The only places you're supposed to use RTV on the pan gasket is at the two corners where the pan gasket meets the oil pan seal in the rear and the two corners in the front where the oil pan gasket meets the front oil pan seal. That's it.
 
I told him to use the RTV on the timing chain cover ...water pump...and where the little piece of gasket is missing on the oil pump...last time I used a gasket only on TCC i got a pan full of water....never have any leaks with the RTV....ok use Red to match the color of your non matching engine....lol

so lay off him....dam..
 
RustyRatRod said:
First, why would you use BLUE? that crap stands out like a sore thumb when you bolt parts together. Secondly, why use grease on the circumference of a seal? Grease is not a sealer. You know what that red stuff is on the outside of the seal? It's high temp silicone RTV. They coat it from the factory. But, it's so old and dried out from sitting on the shelf, that's why I recommend a light coat. It does two things. First, it renews the coat that was there and secondly, it acts as a lubricant when installing, since it's fresh and wet. The seal needs a sealant there on the outside. The fresh RTV seals and lubricates. It's a win/win.



Lastly, use black silicone. Shows up a lot less.
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Thanks for the help! I'll use rtv on the outside circumference of the crank shaft seal.

Thanks for the help everyone! As always I do appreciate the help and guidance.
 
70aarcuda said:
I told him to use the RTV on the timing chain cover ...water pump...and where the little piece of gasket is missing on the oil pump...last time I used a gasket only on TCC i got a pan full of water....never have any leaks with the RTV....ok use Red to match the color of your non matching engine....lol

so lay off him....dam..
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Red would match! So would a little black,but you know what they say! Once you go bla.... wait nvm there are children present :rofl:
 
Buy some good quality gaskets. The engines were built to use gaskets. Superformance are the best out there and they won't squeeze that blue junk into the engine only to have it wind up in the oil pump pickup.
 
If you imagine the Silver to be white my engine is a good ol red white and blue 100% murican

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So you didn't use any gaskets for the water pump, timing cover, and water neck ?
 
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