Manifold to downpipe bolts

I like to use somewhat undersize bolts and lowest (IE grade 2) grade bolts I can get, so I can twist them off if I need to next time they come apart. This of course does not help holding them in place, but I've always managed to "rassle" them i
The keepers I mentioned above are steel.

They were intact on my (then) 49 year old Valiant when I had to drop the Y-pipe to install a new oil pan gasket.

They held when I removed the nuts from below with my 1/2" drive impact.

So how 'kinda permanent' are you after? ;-)
Sounds good I'll call the local dealer