Then, there are alignment guys that do understand, cannot get enough caster and have a customer that won't spend the money to make it happen and blames the alignment guy. Many sides to the same coin. It's not always the alignment guy's fault. There are some cheap bastids out there. Then, after they get done blaming the alignment guy, they spend 3K dollars on an aftermarket suspension and still caint get it right. I've seen it. Right here on this forum.