Im not disagreeing at all, all im bitching about is how can I break a cam in with cheap Summit lifters change nothing else but to Howards and flatten lobes? I ran the car 2000 miles with the cam and summit lifters that were in it. Only reason I changed out was for piece of mind, Howards were supposed to be top quality high performance good for higher RPM revs. All I know is Im done with anything flat tappet.