We're Back! American Astronauts Launched In An American Rocket From American Soil

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I like rockets, there fast.
My sister in law lives on Merritt Island and sent video to us from their boat of the launch.
I want to live long enough to see humans walk on the surface of Mars. I would have thought it would have already happened by now.
 
If Mars is where Science says it is, then walking on Mars will never happen.
If Mars is where God says it is, it will still never happen;
God says all the stars will fall to Earth, and Mars is just a wandering ball of light, according to Him.
If you live long enough, you might see the falling stars.
I am 67 and it is extremely unlikely that I live long enough. There is a slim chance it could happen in the lifetimes of my children; but if not, then for sure in the lifetimes of some to all of my grandchildren.

But of course, you have to be a Believer to believe that, and there ain't many of us left anymore. And there will be even fewer of us when the star-shower begins. The beginning of the Persecution has already begun. I would be surprised if I die a natural death.
 
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If Mars is where Science says it is, then walking on Mars will never happen.
If Mars is where God says it is, it will still never happen;
God says all the stars will fall to Earth, and Mars is just a wandering ball of light, according to Him.
If you live long enough, you might see the falling stars.
I am 67 and it is extremely unlikely that I live long enough. There is a slim chance it could happen in the lifetimes of my children; but if not, then for sure in the lifetimes of some to all of my grandchildren.

But of course, you have to be a Believer to believe that, and there ain't many of us left anymore. And there will be even fewer of us when the star-shower begins. The beginning of the Persecution has already begun. I would be surprised if I die a natural death.

Hey man would you take that stuff to the P&R room? The guy just mentioned a trip to Mars. Give us a break. Thanks bud.
 
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I like rockets, there fast.
My sister in law lives on Merritt Island and sent video to us from their boat of the launch.
I want to live long enough to see humans walk on the surface of Mars. I would have thought it would have already happened by now.

That's what the Artimus rocket and the trip back to the moon is for. We'll need a base "out there" before attempting a trip to Mars. It's like a two year trip. Need a rest stop somewhere. lol
 
That's what the Artimus rocket and the trip back to the moon is for. We'll need a base "out there" before attempting a trip to Mars. It's like a two year trip. Need a rest stop somewhere. lol

If space is anything like the interstate highway system "Rest Stop closed for renovation" :lol:
 
Imagine you are in the 3rd grade as a kid and in the future your teachers talks about everyday people going Zero gravity. Talk about a future for a young kid who wants to dream. Someone's great grandk
That's what the Artimus rocket and the trip back to the moon is for. We'll need a base "out there" before attempting a trip to Mars. It's like a two year trip. Need a rest stop somewhere. lol

I won't provide a link (lol) but hit YT about life in the bathroom in 0 gravity.... I thought the Bean burrito was a bit much lol....

There was a bathroom I believe at the Space shuttle launch pad they called the last bathroom on earth lol...


JW
 
Any bets on when we get someone to set foot on Mars? I hope it happens with 15-20 years. That would be badass!

It takes me away from what I don't like in the outside world right now....

Imagine us as kids in 30-40 years when you realize that it's a reality about going into space. Man, atleast this parts of a kids future is brighter than ever.

Great thread BTW....

JW
 
If Mars is where Science says it is, then walking on Mars will never happen.
If Mars is where God says it is, it will still never happen;
God says all the stars will fall to Earth, and Mars is just a wandering ball of light, according to Him.
If you live long enough, you might see the falling stars.
I am 67 and it is extremely unlikely that I live long enough. There is a slim chance it could happen in the lifetimes of my children; but if not, then for sure in the lifetimes of some to all of my grandchildren.

But of course, you have to be a Believer to believe that, and there ain't many of us left anymore. And there will be even fewer of us when the star-shower begins. The beginning of the Persecution has already begun. I would be surprised if I die a natural death.

Mars is exactly where science says it is. And it's definitely not a "wandering ball of light". How do I know? Fun fact, I briefly interned at a company that built parts for one of the Mars rovers. Lucy, the engineer mentioned in this article, was a classmate of mine at UCLA was an intern there already and got me the internship. Needless to say she stayed in the industry and I did not.

The company behind the robotic arms that help us explore Mars

But beyond that we've already sent spacecraft to Mars. Mariner 4 traveled from Earth to Mars in 1964/'65. Took it 228 days to get there, and took 21 photographs. In 1965. We've landed spacecraft on Mars. Can't land on Mars if science doesn't know where it is.
  • Mariner 4 (1964/65) - 228 days
  • Mariner 6 (1969) - 156 days
  • Mariner 7 (1969) - 131 days
  • Mariner 9 (1971) - 167 days
  • Viking 1 (1976) – 335 days
  • Viking 2 (1976) – 360 days
  • Mars Global Surveyor (1996/97) - 300 days
  • Mars Pathfinder (1996/1997) - 212 days
  • Mars Odyssey (2001) – 200 days
  • Mars Express Orbiter (2003) – 201 days
  • Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter (2006) – 210 days
  • Phoenix Lander (2008) – 295 days
  • Curiosity Lander (2012) – 253 days
Using the Hohmann transfer orbit Mars travel generally takes between 150-300 days. We've been doing it for 50 years, using a method that uses the minimum energy transfer orbit that was proposed by Walter Hohmann in 1925. 1925. Ridiculously cutting edge at the time, basic orbital mechanics now.

How Long Does it Take to Get to Mars? - Universe Today

As for the "falling stars", bud, we've got BILLIONS of years before that happens. A fact that can also be derived directly from science. Whether or not any humans are around to see it is another story.

Any bets on when we get someone to set foot on Mars? I hope it happens with 15-20 years. That would be badass!

Technically the current push is for a 2033 mission, but that depends a lot more on funding, budgets, and actual equipment test procedures than anything else. We already have the technology, we just need to start building things. A fairly recent analysis taking into account equipment testing protocols and procedures puts it off to more like 2037, but again, that timeline is a lot more politically based than it is scientifically based.

Independent report concludes 2033 human Mars mission is not feasible - SpaceNews.com

We can do it, we just have to decide to actually do it. Personally, I doubt we'll be able to commit to the funding necessary to get it done in the next 20 years. We need someone with vision like JFK to actually get people interested and behind the idea to commit to the long term planning and funding that such a mission would take. It will take over a decade at least to build and fully test the equipment, so it has to be supported through multiple administrations. Which is something we haven't been able to do for a while now. Funding and then de-funding and then funding and so on and so forth does not work well with such a monumental endeavor.
 
Imagine a public lottery that you pay into and allows people like us to travel through space.... If everything was in order health wise I would gladly roll the dice weekly for that chance. That's one way to fund it. I think more people would get in it than most realize....

JW
 
Imagine a public lottery that you pay into and allows people like us to travel through space.... If everything was in order health wise I would gladly roll the dice weekly for that chance. That's one way to fund it. I think more people would get in it than most realize....

JW

Sign me up!!!

Might help with the flat earthers too, give 'em a round trip space flight and see what they think about that BS afterward.

Virgin Galactic is supposed to make its first space flight this year, but at $250,000 for the trip it's still too rich for my blood. But if SpaceX and Virgin Galatic start making more successful "tourist" flights the price would likely come down.
 
Mars is exactly where science says it is. And it's definitely not a "wandering ball of light". How do I know? Fun fact, I briefly interned at a company that built parts for one of the Mars rovers. Lucy, the engineer mentioned in this article, was a classmate of mine at UCLA was an intern there already and got me the internship. Needless to say she stayed in the industry and I did not.

The company behind the robotic arms that help us explore Mars

But beyond that we've already sent spacecraft to Mars. Mariner 4 traveled from Earth to Mars in 1964/'65. Took it 228 days to get there, and took 21 photographs. In 1965. We've landed spacecraft on Mars. Can't land on Mars if science doesn't know where it is.
  • Mariner 4 (1964/65) - 228 days
  • Mariner 6 (1969) - 156 days
  • Mariner 7 (1969) - 131 days
  • Mariner 9 (1971) - 167 days
  • Viking 1 (1976) – 335 days
  • Viking 2 (1976) – 360 days
  • Mars Global Surveyor (1996/97) - 300 days
  • Mars Pathfinder (1996/1997) - 212 days
  • Mars Odyssey (2001) – 200 days
  • Mars Express Orbiter (2003) – 201 days
  • Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter (2006) – 210 days
  • Phoenix Lander (2008) – 295 days
  • Curiosity Lander (2012) – 253 days
Using the Hohmann transfer orbit Mars travel generally takes between 150-300 days. We've been doing it for 50 years, using a method that uses the minimum energy transfer orbit that was proposed by Walter Hohmann in 1925. 1925. Ridiculously cutting edge at the time, basic orbital mechanics now.

How Long Does it Take to Get to Mars? - Universe Today

As for the "falling stars", bud, we've got BILLIONS of years before that happens. A fact that can also be derived directly from science. Whether or not any humans are around to see it is another story.



Technically the current push is for a 2033 mission, but that depends a lot more on funding, budgets, and actual equipment test procedures than anything else. We already have the technology, we just need to start building things. A fairly recent analysis taking into account equipment testing protocols and procedures puts it off to more like 2037, but again, that timeline is a lot more politically based than it is scientifically based.

Independent report concludes 2033 human Mars mission is not feasible - SpaceNews.com

We can do it, we just have to decide to actually do it. Personally, I doubt we'll be able to commit to the funding necessary to get it done in the next 20 years. We need someone with vision like JFK to actually get people interested and behind the idea to commit to the long term planning and funding that such a mission would take. It will take over a decade at least to build and fully test the equipment, so it has to be supported through multiple administrations. Which is something we haven't been able to do for a while now. Funding and then de-funding and then funding and so on and so forth does not work well with such a monumental endeavor.
Besides all we've learned from the rovers and the amazing photos and data we've received from them, there is also this little gem. Photo from 2017 I believe.
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We processed HST through the facility I was working at KSC.
 
Imagine you are in the 3rd grade as a kid and in the future your teachers talks about everyday people going Zero gravity. Talk about a future for a young kid who wants to dream. Someone's great grandk


I won't provide a link (lol) but hit YT about life in the bathroom in 0 gravity.... I thought the Bean burrito was a bit much lol....

There was a bathroom I believe at the Space shuttle launch pad they called the last bathroom on earth lol...


JW
Haha there is. A little urinal from what I remember. At 39a and b. Spent a fair amount of time at them early in my career. We had the payload processing contract. Receive the payloads, test them for communication with a shuttle simulator. Then transport them to the pad and install them on the orbiter.
Hubble in the Payload Bay at the PCR (payload changeout room).
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Imagine a public lottery that you pay into and allows people like us to travel through space.... If everything was in order health wise I would gladly roll the dice weekly for that chance. That's one way to fund it. I think more people would get in it than most realize....

 
Besides all we've learned from the rovers and the amazing photos and data we've received from them, there is also this little gem. Photo from 2017 I believe.
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We processed HST through the facility I was working at KSC.

I was gonna ask how that photo was taken (thinking there must've been a second craft), then I saw the small disclaimer in the corner. I wonder what the non-doctored photo looks like. Still a great photo!
 
"Note; Hubble not to scale"

If in 1969, I had been in charge of the so-called moon-landing, the very very first thing I would have commanded, is a feature length moving picture show, of the rotating Earth, complete with animate cloud cover, in color,with the astronauts body and a current newspaper in the same shot. That's the number two way of proving the Earth is a sphere, hung on nothing.
What did we get?
wait what?
We got one stillshot, a muddy shot, a shot that that proved nothing!
They Spent billions of dollars for one pos still shot.
But you bought it.
And now you believe every made up shot that NASA feeds you.You guys will believe any made up thing. You are fully indoctrinated.
Science; falsely so called.
They lie to your face and tell you they are lying, and you eat it up.
 
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I was gonna ask how that photo was taken (thinking there must've been a second craft), then I saw the small disclaimer in the corner. I wonder what the non-doctored photo looks like. Still a great photo!

All this being said , I think I`d get bored as hell cooped up that long . My wife asked me if "I`d do that ", when watching the replay of the docking, I told her I`d enjoy making one trip around the earth to see it as GOD sees it , but then I`d be ready to come home . Don`t think well see anyone on mars foe a long long time , maybe never !
There needs to be a better way of powering the space craft , to me ! ----beam me up Scotty !
 
I was gonna ask how that photo was taken (thinking there must've been a second craft), then I saw the small disclaimer in the corner. I wonder what the non-doctored photo looks like. Still a great photo!
It was just the first stock photo of Hubble I came across. Some people will make a big deal of it being doctored. I just thought it was pretty. lol
The original probably looked something like this:

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