fun with alzheimers

It's not murder if the patient pushes the needle DIY. Would you let your dog suffer in agony? I don't think so. And if this is what the patient wants so they don't suffer then what's the problem. The procedure should start with discussion with 2 dr.s, a psychiatrist and a lawyer to make sure the patient is still capable of making this decision or as mentioned earlier in a living will stating their wishes. It's all done with family around in a peaceful manner. Would being in unbelievable pain living out your final days which is inevitable praying to your God to take them be better? Not in my books.

i dont think this is a discussion we will ever agree on, and you're argument that would lower my loved ones status to that of an animal doesnt really help

i will give you this, suicide isnt murder
but that doenst make it right either

we dont have the right to create live, we dont have the right to end life, it is that simple