HOLY BARN FIND!!!

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I thought the name was familiar, he was one of the more down to earth appraisers on the show Sticker Shock, also seemed very knowledgeable and a straightforward, no bullshit type.
 
Bulldozer said:
since she's completely oblivious to what kind of value they really have , I'm sure she'll end up with pennies on the dollar. everyone involved will have their greedy hands in it
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Don’t make assumptions.

Seen it where the widow is well aware. And actually demanding top dollar.
 
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Tad said:
Hey guys I know this is the a body site but, a guy by the name of Randy Carlson who is out here in Southern California just made a big score.
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Tad said:
Supposedly the lady’s husband died and this guy is trying to sell the cars for her.
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So, which one is it? Did the guy "make a big score" as in, he acquired the awesome cars, to be sold for profit later? Or is he simply doing the legwork in selling them for the widow? Either way, that sure is a nice haul, though I'm not sure I'd be bragging about it if my intent was truly just to make big bucks out of an unfortunate situation.
 
mopowers said:
So, which one is it? Did the guy "make a big score" as in, he acquired the awesome cars, to be sold for profit later? Or is he simply doing the legwork in selling them for the widow? Either way, that sure is a nice haul, though I'm not sure I'd be bragging about it if my intent was truly just to make big bucks out of an unfortunate situation.
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All cars outlive their owners. So they will need to be inherited to someone or sold to someone. The widow wants to sell them and choose this person to be her agent.

She’s gonna need somebody’s help, why not him?
 
autoxcuda said:
All cars outlive their owners. So they will need to be inherited to someone or sold to someone. The widow wants to sell them and choose this person to be her agent.

She’s gonna need somebody’s help, why not him?
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I agree and that's why I asked the question. Is he the agent, or did he "make a big score?" Those are two different things in my book.
 
Lets all be realistic here. This womans husband had the vision and foresight to save these cars when they were just used up old cars. He passed away and She wanted these gone, if the buyer gave her a decent dollar for them, then flips them to make himself some money over what he payed her, what's the big deal. Its costing him time, and money. Nobody works for free. I doubt that semi truck round trip was free either. Plus hes got to get em running and driving. All this is costing him time and money. Then he has to resell them. Again nobody works for free. He has to make something out of this deal or it's not worth it. None of us actually own this stuff forever. We are all only curators or caretakers of it. Nothing more.
 
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mopowers said:
I agree and that's why I asked the question. Is he the agent, or did he "make a big score?" Those are two different things in my book.
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Could be both just like “make a big score” could mean more than one thing. Either he’s gonna make some cash, and/or he found some great cars. I posted this because I thought the cars were awesome and I wanted to share that excitement. From there I’m not concerned about the details.
 
ALL those cars can be sold "as is" no need for any work to make $$.
The wife is the one that deserves the largest portion of the $$. Hope it works out that way.
Never heard of Randy Carlson, but appears to be a knowledgable car guy. Hopefully with ethics.
 
Tad said:
Yeah, I hear you. My greatest find was a 66 valiant 4 door slant 6 for 100 bucks
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A woman who worked at the school after care program my son went to years ago lost her husband to cancer. I heard through the grapevine he had a 69 Road Runner so I inquired about it. She told me she wouldn't show it to me and she would never sell it. I recently saw it for sale on Craigslist. Its a basket case shell with all of the parts in piles in the garage and she wants 9K for it. I'm glad she didn't show me it when I asked. That's the kind of crap I find .
 
4spdragtop said:
ALL those cars can be sold "as is" no need for any work to make $$.
The wife is the one that deserves the largest portion of the $$. Hope it works out that way.
Never heard of Randy Carlson, but appears to be a knowledgable car guy. Hopefully with ethics.
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In today's world shame on her if she didn't find someone to help her come up with a reasonable number. If she is incapable of doing the legwork someone who is responsible for her should have. It's that simple.....

I hope whatever transpired meant an agreed upon amount and then a check was wrote so she could move on. Nothing else makes sense. Everyone who has their hands in it will be in it for the money....

JW
 
SLOPAR72 said:
In today's world shame on her if she didn't find someone to help her come up with a reasonable number. If she is incapable of doing the legwork someone who is responsible for her should have. It's that simple.....

I hope whatever transpired meant an agreed upon amount and then a check was wrote so she could move on. Nothing else makes sense. Everyone who has their hands in it will be in it for the money....

JW
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That’s oversimplified.

These are specific high end collector vehicles. The as-is price for the Hemi Challenger could be around 6 figures (condition & doc extremely depending).

You can see there are parts involved too. High end parts at that.

Some friend of the family that owns a 66 Mustang is not going to have a grasp at the real world selling price for these cars.

Turns out..... Sales is a skill and service.

Knowledge of product, knowing market price, knowing how to find end use customers, negotiating, etc

Sure some friend could put it up eBay... with poor description, poor pictures, missing box of critical parts left on shelf. Then someone looks at 1 car and location of everything is leaked....the land rush starts and the flipper goon squad is camped out at the widow’s front door.
 
I would agree that it's not a simple process but it can be figured out.

Let's say for instance you happen to have an Aunt who has a Rolex and she wants to get rid of it as it was always in the way in that darn safety deposit box your now deceased uncle had. You would probably say to yourself it's old and a watch but by no means are you a scholar on watches. But that name Rolex will mean something. Worthy of figuring out what she has and hopefully you are able to help her and if not find someone who will.....

I hope she has her wits and knows what she has or as I said someone helped her. Maybe Hemi won't ring a bell to most but Mustang will. And old rusty Mustang to most people I know whether they are up on the car market or not will raise an eyebrow.... But that's just my opinion...

JW
 
Remember all,
The people that make these cars
Surpass their age value and destruction are us.
Not the few lucky ones who wind up with a bag of cash.

If it it were not for us, most cases
Average joes loving these cars and spending money and hard work to keep on the road, they wouldnt be worth jack
To anyone.


So thank you all.....
 
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Sorry but disagree on "shame on her"
Dad died at 69 years old and had ZERO interest in computers, so I would suspect she may have limited computer skills? And that's how 99% of research is done.
Spouses dont automatically know the value of their partners stash unfortunately.
SLOPAR72 said:
In today's world shame on her if she didn't find someone to help her come up with a reasonable number. If she is incapable of doing the legwork someone who is responsible for her should have. It's that simple.....

I hope whatever transpired meant an agreed upon amount and then a check was wrote so she could move on. Nothing else makes sense. Everyone who has their hands in it will be in it for the money....

JW
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ANd may be she just wanted them gone without the hassle of selling them to the highest bidder. That's why many survivors have auction companies liquidate the assets. One and done. It's all gone and they get a check.
 
4spdragtop said:
Sorry but disagree on "shame on her"
Dad died at 69 years old and had ZERO interest in computers, so I would suspect she may have limited computer skills? And that's how 99% of research is done.
Spouses dont automatically know the value of their partners stash unfortunately.
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Hopefully whomever is helping her does it right. I can only think of one elderly person I know personally who has no ties at any level to the internet. But that's my perspective....

Just recently I went to go look at an issue for a friends mom's car in her garage. In that garage sitting in the corner was an old BMX bike. We spent more time talking about the bike than I did fixing the loose battery connection on the car.... It was on her list to let Goodwill have it. It's an all original Mongoose from the 70's. Not a $5.00 bike.

Something like this BMX I can easily see slipping through the cracks. But an old Mustang I don't. The word Mustang is known worldwide just like the name Michael Jackson.

However it ends I just hope she was treated fairly...

JW
 
toolmanmike said:
ANd may be she just wanted them gone without the hassle of selling them to the highest bidder. That's why many survivors have auction companies liquidate the assets. One and done. It's all gone and they get a check.
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Rip the bandaid off is a quick way to move on that I don't disagree. Did it with my business. However what typically happens is these Auction companies survey what you have and if it's high ticket items they will move these outside of the general auction. That's seems to be the norm today....

An example could be a automotive enthusiast with a stockpile of tools in the estate auction and not a Snapon or Mactool to be found. The things that are left were picked over. Everyone has their own story and angle. It's just how I see situations like this... I hope we get updates on the cars anyway....

JW
 
SLOPAR72 said:
Hopefully whomever is helping her does it right. I can only think of one elderly person I know personally who has no ties at any level to the internet. But that's my perspective....

Just recently I went to go look at an issue for a friends mom's car in her garage. In that garage sitting in the corner was an old BMX bike. We spent more time talking about the bike than I did fixing the loose battery connection on the car.... It was on her list to let Goodwill have it. It's an all original Mongoose from the 70's. Not a $5.00 bike.

Something like this BMX I can easily see slipping through the cracks. But an old Mustang I don't. The word Mustang is known worldwide just like the name Michael Jackson.

However it ends I just hope she was treated fairly...

JW
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For the effort and people the widow has already got involved, it proves she knows these are not $4000 cars. She knows they have high value.

She is not ripping the band aid off.

It's not about whether these are $4000 or $80,000 cars. It's about $80K or $100K or $60K. Roughly times that by FOUR.

Take your Mongoose BMX example. This seller already knows it's not a $5.00 bike. There are Mongoose's like that for sale for $250. Some E-bay and online sellers have "dreamer" advertised prices. But actual selling price is rarely listed to look back on. Many bikes are sold in person at BMX swap meets, not online too.

In the case of these cars... They are not a relatively high production 80's Mongoose or Rolex. They only made 171 1971 Hemi Challenger’s. This is more like early 24" Skyway or '74 Redline or Rolex once owned by a famous person.

Much much harder to find comparable actual sales. And much higher restoration cost.

Also, its about percentages. That Mongoose BMX bike example. You might find some sell for $210, $250, $290 +/- 15%. $40 buck swing... no big deal.

Now on $200K worth (conservative) of cars that’s a $60K swing in sale price.

Would you pay someone $20K to net you $40K ??
 
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