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No different than using a credit card. The seller pays the card fees and the buyer get the protection.
 
Yes the fee does come out of the seller's end which makes no sense to me since it's there to protect the buyer. Once the money is sent the buyer is the one in the hot seat so to speak. Seems to me the buyer should pay to be protected from a bad seller but what do I know. On here 99 percent of the time I send it FF because I'm a trustworthy person. If it's a more expensive item or something I feel I need to be protected on I will add three percent to cover the fees. But I do feel like that should be agreed on before the deal is set in stone. If it's a part I really need I'm not gonna back out because you as for 3 percent to cover your fee

There are plenty of threads right here on this board about people getting scammed after sending money via PayPal “friends and family”. It’s right in the title, if they’re not your friend or your family don’t send money that way.

If you’re buying goods or services send it that way. Otherwise you have ZERO recourse if something goes sideways. It doesn’t even have to be an outright scam, there’s literally nothing you can do if something goes wrong or the parts aren’t as described. The seller doesn’t have to do a thing if they don’t want to, there’s nothing you can do. Pay the fee, let the seller pay the fee, whatever the terms of the sale are that’s fine. But sending friends and family on a purchase is asking to get ripped off. Most sellers here are good, but eventually it will catch up with you.

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Scammer alert!
 
I don’t care about the money loss, it’s gone anyway, It’s the part that I want.
 
There are other reasons besides scammers to NOT send F&F. What if God forbid you send money to a real friend for something big. They somehow pass away. They have no friends or family that knows anything about any online deals. What recourse do you have? None. Here you are with money laid out and no parts. With the money sent goods and services, you can at least get that back. Not wishing anybody any omens, but stuff like that happens everyday.
 
There are plenty of threads right here on this board about people getting scammed after sending money via PayPal “friends and family”. It’s right in the title, if they’re not your friend or your family don’t send money that way.

If you’re buying goods or services send it that way. Otherwise you have ZERO recourse if something goes sideways. It doesn’t even have to be an outright scam, there’s literally nothing you can do if something goes wrong or the parts aren’t as described. The seller doesn’t have to do a thing if they don’t want to, there’s nothing you can do. Pay the fee, let the seller pay the fee, whatever the terms of the sale are that’s fine. But sending friends and family on a purchase is asking to get ripped off. Most sellers here are good, but eventually it will catch up with you.

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Yes I absolutely agree with you. You want hear an argument from me. Alot of times when I'm buying stuff (I dont sell real often) It mostly from guys I I feel I can trust and I talk with in the boards daily. Like Roy or rusty and many others I feel it's just insulting to them for either one of us to pay a fee. Maybe I'm I just to trusting and naive to think it wont happen to me. I remember one time I sent a part to someone for free all i asked was for shipping and they still used the insured pp lol so I had to pay 3 percent of their shipping on a part I was giving them. I mean I get it ppl get in a habit of using it for their safety but on a free part? Haha
 
You guys need to look, paypal fees are almost 5%. Not 3%.
If someone doesn't trust me, they pay the 5%.

That's your right and selling philosophy. Nothing wrong with that. Just don't expect to get the responses someone else might by a seller ponying up to the fee.

It all boils down to dishonest people taking advantage of others. Paypal has brought dumptruck after dumptruck of cash to the bank because of it. Plain and simple....

JW
 
It’s 2.9% +0.30 cents for US sales. International sales are 4.4% for those Canada sales.

Right off the PayPal website...
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But what p/p didnt tell us Canadian guys is that there is a conversion fee for us to accept the usd monies that they change to Canadian and then another conversion fee to convert it back to usd when I buy something from the good ole USA.This is in addition to the 4.4% and the transaction fee. Kim
 
Yes I absolutely agree with you. You want hear an argument from me. Alot of times when I'm buying stuff (I dont sell real often) It mostly from guys I I feel I can trust and I talk with in the boards daily. Like Roy or rusty and many others I feel it's just insulting to them for either one of us to pay a fee. Maybe I'm I just to trusting and naive to think it wont happen to me. I remember one time I sent a part to someone for free all i asked was for shipping and they still used the insured pp lol so I had to pay 3 percent of their shipping on a part I was giving them. I mean I get it ppl get in a habit of using it for their safety but on a free part? Haha

I don't look at it as a matter of "trust". I look at it as insurance, plain and simple. It isn't personal. Like @RustyRatRod said, even stand up members that have spotless sales records can have "life" happen to them. A lot of the members here are older, and unfortunately that means that medical emergencies and transportation issues can be a very real part of a sale regardless of the seller's good intentions.

But what p/p didnt tell us Canadian guys is that there is a conversion fee for us to accept the usd monies that they change to Canadian and then another conversion fee to convert it back to usd when I buy something from the good ole USA.This is in addition to the 4.4% and the transaction fee. Kim

Their conversion fees are also listed clearly on their fees page. If you use paypal as a seller, go here and review the different fees.
Credit Card Fees, Send Money Fees & Other Charges - PayPal US

All of their fees are listed there. It covers selling online, selling point of sale, selling to different countries, selling with different currency's, etc...

This is the stuff that they send in their user agreement emails. It does change, but it's all on the website. As a seller, it's your responsibility to be familiar with all of this stuff. The fees are not unlike fees that are charged to businesses by credit card companies, or by banks for currency conversions. While they may not spell out every possible fee you may incur in a personal email or phone call, everything is pretty clearly listed on the website. They don't have any hidden fees.

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And for those still complaining about the percentage not being 2.9%, remember it's 2.9% plus $0.30 per transaction. For smaller transactions the "per transaction" fee will make bigger difference than for large ones, which may be why you think it's more than 2.9%. For example if you're talking about a $10 sale then the $0.30 transaction fee doubles the total fee from just the 2.9%, because it's $0.29 plus the $0.30. So you see the total fee for a $10 transaction at $0.59, which is almost 6%. But it's not 6%, it's 2.9% plus 30 cents. For a $100 transaction its $2.90 + 0.30, so $3.20. So now you see the total fee as 3.2% of the sale.

All it means is that you have to pay attention to exactly how the fees are charged. For smaller transactions the $0.30 makes a bigger percentage difference if you look at the total fee that way. For larger transactions it looks more like the 2.9% because the 30 cents for each transaction doesn't change much. It's your responsibility as a seller to know how that stuff works, it's all posted on the website and it's in the user agreement. If you don't pay attention to the terms of service, don't get mad at PayPal.
 
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So now to push this even further, how do y'all send the fee? Do you just add it to whatever the price for the part is? Here's why I ask. Say I buy a part for 100 bucks with shipping. So the fee is 3.20. I pay 100 and the seller has to pay 3.20. But if I send the fee included in the price, 103.20, then does paypal take the fee out of 100 or out of 103.20? What I have been doing is sending the fee as F&F and the total for whatever part I buy as Goods. I know the difference is probably negligible so it may not matter but I'm not here to make any enemies if I can help it. Some people will get mad over a dime.
 
So now to push this even further, how do y'all send the fee? Do you just add it to whatever the price for the part is? Here's why I ask. Say I buy a part for 100 bucks with shipping. So the fee is 3.20. I pay 100 and the seller has to pay 3.20. But if I send the fee included in the price, 103.20, then does paypal take the fee out of 100 or out of 103.20? What I have been doing is sending the fee as F&F and the total for whatever part I buy as Goods. I know the difference is probably negligible so it may not matter but I'm not here to make any enemies if I can help it. Some people will get mad over a dime.

I just add extra to the sale price. Yes, PayPal then uses that larger total to calculate their fee. It’s just math, it’s not hard to figure out how to get the seller the original asking price if you know how they calculate the fees and that’s right on the website.
 
I usally just ad a even number if its 50 dollars I make it 52 dollars. If it's 100 I make it 104 that way the seller wont loose money on 50 dollars it would be 51.50 I send 52 so the fee would be 1.56 so they are getting 50.44 cents.
 
In my slates, buyer pays fees or add 3%(or a few bucks), pretty simple really. Like ANY deal negotiate that at beginning.
It's called BUYER protection.
I really hope this goes 3 pages deep!! I really do!
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