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Just getting ready to put these together, thought I’d grab a couple pics.
These are the MP MW replacement heads.
They’re going on a 426” stroker for a real
MW car.

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320/250@.700
2.14/1.88 valves

With just a valve job and a quick bowl blend it was 263/222@.700.

The ports on these heads are totally different than the 62-63 factory 286 MW heads.
I’ve never had any factory 1964 MW heads(518’s) in my shop, so I can’t comment on how they compare.
 
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MW heads have the same short valves that non-MW heads have so the port height at the short turn isn’t very generous, and they don’t utilize offset rockers so the width at the pinch isn’t that wide either.
So, I guess I would say the shortcoming is not having enough area down stream of the opening to take advantage of it.

I didn’t want to do anything I felt would have caused a noticeable drop in the reliability of the casting........ so I would consider this a “normal” porting job.
They haven’t made these castings in a while, and untouched examples are hard to come by, and are expensive.
Since they are going on a motor for a car that will likely never see the drag strip, I really wasn’t trying to get every last cfm out of them.
I have no doubts that if someone applied a “super stock” level of effort to them, there is plenty of cfm left.
That’s just not my thing.
I’m not really trying to break new ground with porting.
I’m just trying to get what the basic design and shape will give me without feeling like I need to reinvent the head.
There are those who enjoy that type of challenge....... but that’s not me.
 
I’m assuming these heads are no longer produced. What was their cost back them, approximately how many were produced, and is there a stock, Super Stock replacement head made now and if so is it aluminum.
 
These heads weren’t very expensive when they were current and you could get them from MP.
Like $600/ea-ish??
These were only made because of the need for the castings for S and SS.
These are the legal replacement heads(I don’t think the Ede made NHRA head is legal for MW combos).
But, these 518-M’s are no longer made.

This set is also from the last batch made, which are generally considered the best ones.
However, in typical MP “it’s always something” tradition...... the last run were made with the chambers several cc’s smaller than the legal size for S and SS, which is a big pita for those guys to deal with.
Didn’t matter at all for this build.
 
Looks great!

l’ve really been enjoying these threads you and John have been doing on head work:thumbsup:
 
I have a set of 286s that were professionally ported a looong time ago. They still have the 2.08 1.88 valves, new tho. Dwayne, can you compare the new 518s to the 286s you have seen?
For reference, the ssr on my 286 is almost non-existant.
 
Dwayne, can you compare the new 518s to the 286s you have seen?

Just to make it clear, these heads aren’t 518’s...... they’re the replacement heads......518-M’s.
I can’t comment on original 518’s....... I’ve never had one in my shop.

As you mentioned, the 286’s have basically no SSR..... on either intake or exhaust.
The intake floor is flat, and pretty much just ends at the valve job.
To my eye, it’s very much like a giant sized 516 port.

The exhaust floor is pretty much just a straight line from the valve seat to the port exit...... with a noticeable edge where the valve seat machining ends and the casting starts.
They don’t look like they would flow very well....... and they don’t really.
They only move a reasonable amount of air because they’re so big, and have a big valve.

There are some somewhat subtle differences between the various versions of the 518-M heads.
The first batch have freeze plugs on the ends of the head.

The main thing I see different between the last version and the earlier ones is the chamber wall is moved away from the intake valve.
The earlier ones have the chamber closer to the intake valve, like a 286 head.
When you put bigger valves in, it’s helpful to relieve the chambers around the valves.
On the set in the pics(the latest version), I havent done any reshaping of the chambers at all.
I just gave them a once over with a sanding roll.
There is ample space around the intake valves on these heads.

All the 518-M’s I’ve seen have the somewhat excessive relief cut done adjacent to the exhaust valve.
This means you’ll be using a pretty big bore gasket to seal the chamber...... whether the engine is big bore or not.

The 286 heads aren’t like this at all.

The 518-M exhaust port is really better than it needs to be.
If you just do a radius valve seat, and blend that into the bowl along with cleaning up the rest of the port...... you’ll get 240+.
The 286 port is usually 25-30cfm lower with similar work....... and sounds pretty rough too.

The 518-M has a real SSR on the intake port, with ample height....... and as such, does require some rework and shaping to keep the numbers from backing up at higher lifts.

With the large port opening and fairly compact guide boss there’s plenty of room to get in there and tweak it.
It doesn’t take anything special to make it work pretty well, but you do have to address it.

The 286 intake port doesn’t really take a lot of thought if you’re doing a basic porting job.
Size the bowl for the valve, streamline the guide boss, smooth the transition around the oil feed line, open the pinch as much as you dare.
With bigger valves it helps the mid-lift numbers to open the chamber up around the intake valve.
That’ll get you real close to 300@.700 with a 2.14 valve.

With essentially the same level of work, and the same size valves....... with the 286 heads having had the chamber opened up a bit, against the latest version of the 518-M with the extra space in the chamber, along with the much taller SSR, they can be up 25-30cfm over the 286 in the .400-.650 lift range.
If you’re not using the latest version 518-M head, and don’t relieve the chambers on them, the numbers will be pretty similar to 286’s that have had the chambers opened up.
That’s showing you what the added SSR height it worth.

The exhaust ports start off pretty even at .100, and then the difference just gets farther apart as the lift increases.
 
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The MP Max Wedge aluminum casting, or at least one of the part numbers was P5249579.
I have a new pair with 220/188 new done by Jim and Cody Laroy.
 
a few for the aluminum head fans.......
Indy EZ head.
These started out as the std port head and I opened them up to MW size(which is really very straight forward with these heads).
Flow-
Lift——— in/ex w-2” tube
.500——307/223
.600——341/248
.700——356/266
.800——368/279

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a few for the aluminum head fans.......
Indy EZ head.
These started out as the std port head and I opened them up to MW size(which is really very straight forward with these heads).
Flow-
Lift——— in/ex w-2” tube
.500——307/223
.600——341/248
.700——356/266
.800——368/279

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Very nice work PRH.
 
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