Almost Blew engine

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Ron816

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I purchased a rebuilt AVS 4426S for my freshly rebuilt 383, installed fired her up was running at VERY high idle @ 4000rpm, shut it down got nasty backfire thru exhaust, did some checking around made sure everything was operating and hooked up correctly. Re started now the engine was screaming I immediately shut it down it once again backfired, but this time it was so volatile that it blew out 2 brand new mufflers. Needless to say I am not putting this carb back on until I can figure out what happened, an ideas would be appreciated. I had a edelbrock carb that i put on and runs perfect, but I would like to keep period correct carb.
 
Did you set the carb up before throwing it on there? I mean making sure the throttle screw was set barely open? Those dont have a return spring on them so if theyre not set right it'll stay open and do similar things.
I purchased a rebuilt AVS 4426S for my freshly rebuilt 383, installed fired her up was running at VERY high idle @ 4000rpm, shut it down got nasty backfire thru exhaust, did some checking around made sure everything was operating and hooked up correctly. Re started now the engine was screaming I immediately shut it down it once again backfired, but this time it was so volatile that it blew out 2 brand new mufflers. Needless to say I am not putting this carb back on until I can figure out what happened, an ideas would be appreciated. I had a edelbrock carb that i put on and runs perfect, but I would like to keep period correct carb.
 
You need a known good carburetor for a fresh engine at break in. Get that thing off there and put one on you know is good. You figure out what's wrong and put it back on later.
 
check the throttle blades it has to be sticking open it could not accelerate up to that level without air
 
Did you set the carb up before throwing it on there? I mean making sure the throttle screw was set barely open? Those dont have a return spring on them so if theyre not set right it'll stay open and do similar things.
yes I set everything up, I have installed literally dozens and dozens of carbs and never had this happen
 
It has been my experience with Carter style carburetors if you have a fuel dump such as a stuck float but throttle blades are closed it will just flood and run real rich it also needs air to allow your motor to run up perhaps you're pulling air from underneath the carburetor from a poor seal.
 
In order for the engine to rev that high; It has to be getting quite a lot of BOTH air AND fuel.
An open PCV, open booster port, or a leak at the intake to head gasket, will only pass air, so the engine usually stalls at or near idle. Some carbs pull air down thru the air-cleaner stud hole, so make sure the stud is in there.


With ALL FOUR, CLOSED or NEARLY closed throttles, and assuming the bowls are not leaking directly into the engine; there are only a limited number of places that fuel can get into the intake.
But if it all looks good on the bench; namely the secondaries closed up tight but not sticking, and the primaries opened up just far enough to expose the transfer slots to make them square to a little taller than square, then after it is mounted,make sure that NONE of the throttles hang open on any gasket.
BTW
A 2bbl throttle bracket will not allow the primaries to close, with cable anchored in the usual way, clamped on the metal sleeve. If you clamp it on the black part, you're just looking for trouble.
If your carb does not have a throttle-shaft clocking spring, then you should run two return springs; one inside the other.
BTW
My engine has run at 7200 rpm for as long as maybe 10 seconds atta time, hundreds of times;
and normally goes 7000 for 6 to 8 seconds atta time, for thousands of times;
since being screwed together in 1999.
It doesn't seem to have bothered it. 4000 is just kicking back. 5000,just a walk in the park.
The afterfires that exploded your mufflers, were caused by an explosive, ready-to burn mixture. With a closed throttle, IMO, this can only happen if the exhaust is sucking fresh air somewhere, and the most likely place is at the head flange, with the collector coming in second. I don't think it can suck enough air thru the base gasket or thru worn-out throttle-shafts. But an open PCV or booster port would do it.
In any case
Happy Hunting.
 
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Blades were not stuck

There's only so much that will allow an engine to run at very high RPM and any way you spell this it comes down to A MASSIVE AIR HOLE or vacuum leak. Doesn't matter if it's an open vacuum port, PCV valve failure / broken hose/ forgotten, or throttles open, it has to be one of those things PERIOD

Take a REALLY good look at ports on the manifold, ports on the carb, condition and fit of carb base gaskets BOTH on the manifold AND on the carb, and look especially for some gap such as a base gasket not bridging some gap in either the manifold or carb

One popular problem EG are aftermarket "dual pattern" spread bore manifolds
 
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