Apples to apples?..

This is what I’ve been saying for years, everything is combo dependent. When someone would ask if a specific part worked well you always have to know the context of where that part is and what parts are surrounding it.
I think a great example of what you're talking about and I agree with is 318 will run doing out of the box speedmasters on his relatively stock build and my out-of-the-box speed Masters on my relatively custom build.. there's just no comparing the results...